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<blockquote data-quote="MoBoost" data-source="post: 2000409" data-attributes="member: 3455"><p>debate = info = everyone wins.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agree with everything except for accuracy - 6PPC uses short, fat, flat base bullets - and reigns undisputed short distance accuracy king.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a picture of 1950 com-block FMJ bullet compared to a modern match bullet that went through a tipping die - apples to oranges, that raises all kinds of "bs flags" in my mind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can build 7.62x39 with 308 bore ... again you can compare bottom of the bucket AK barrel to a custom built barrel to a custom bullet - but we are back to apples to oranges.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pistol powders are used because you have pistol sized case - <a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/05/09/interesting-300-aac-blk-357-wildcat/" target="_blank"><strong>357 Magnum to be exact.</strong></a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's my whole point - it filled the niche that in my opinion doesn't exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>5.56 the AR was designed for runs just fine suppressed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you are forgetting that all pistol rounds (minus mouse guns) run <strong>bigger caliber</strong> AND <strong>heavier bullets</strong>. The energy/penetration of 300blk comes from velocity fired from a rifle @ 55000 psi.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>a) 125gn@2200 vs 220gn@950 - POI is totally different - so slap a mag and go to range to re-zero, engage targets is the reality.</p><p>b) Past 100 yards, 1" drop every 2 yards is not exactly "effective" .... sorry man, if you are shooting subsonics past 100 yards - you are doing it wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said - 5.56 runs suppressed just fine, so why reinvent the wheel? Or the 300AAC sales pitch clouds your mind and you think suppressed = subsonic?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoBoost, post: 2000409, member: 3455"] debate = info = everyone wins. Agree with everything except for accuracy - 6PPC uses short, fat, flat base bullets - and reigns undisputed short distance accuracy king. This is a picture of 1950 com-block FMJ bullet compared to a modern match bullet that went through a tipping die - apples to oranges, that raises all kinds of "bs flags" in my mind. You can build 7.62x39 with 308 bore ... again you can compare bottom of the bucket AK barrel to a custom built barrel to a custom bullet - but we are back to apples to oranges. Pistol powders are used because you have pistol sized case - [URL="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/05/09/interesting-300-aac-blk-357-wildcat/"][B]357 Magnum to be exact.[/B][/URL] That's my whole point - it filled the niche that in my opinion doesn't exist. 5.56 the AR was designed for runs just fine suppressed. I think you are forgetting that all pistol rounds (minus mouse guns) run [B]bigger caliber[/B] AND [B]heavier bullets[/B]. The energy/penetration of 300blk comes from velocity fired from a rifle @ 55000 psi. a) 125gn@2200 vs 220gn@950 - POI is totally different - so slap a mag and go to range to re-zero, engage targets is the reality. b) Past 100 yards, 1" drop every 2 yards is not exactly "effective" .... sorry man, if you are shooting subsonics past 100 yards - you are doing it wrong. As I said - 5.56 runs suppressed just fine, so why reinvent the wheel? Or the 300AAC sales pitch clouds your mind and you think suppressed = subsonic? [/QUOTE]
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