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<blockquote data-quote="henschman" data-source="post: 1256500" data-attributes="member: 4235"><p>That's exactly my point about this law... the TC Contender in .30'06 and the MRI Lone Eagle in .308 (the picture I posted) are both legal to carry, since they both fire projectiles measuring .308"... well under the .45 requirement, no matter how you interpret it. However, they are both far more powerful and have far more penetration than a .50 GI, or even a .50 AE or .500 S&W. No vest short of a full ceramic plated one would stop them.</p><p></p><p>And as far as pistol rounds go, the ones that penetrate the best are all of smaller caliber, like 5.7x28, 7.62x25, and .357 SIG. Sectional density is what defeats armor -- this is achieved with a small projectile with lots of energy behind it.</p><p></p><p>Not that the people who write gun control laws have to know anything about the subject they are regulating... the same goes for most things those disgraces we elect to office make laws on. The economy is a good example... they are trying to regulate something about which they and their supposed "experts" obviously know very little.</p><p></p><p>As for how the law would be interpreted, that is up to the courts. Many times they look to the dictionary definition of words when trying to construe a statute, but they also look to the legislative history to get at the true intent behind it. I think a court would likely recognize that the members of the legislature are not experts on firearms, and find that by the term ".45 caliber," the legislature was referring to cartridges that are commonly known as ".45s," like the .45 ACP. But who knows -- it is possible for them to go the other way, too.</p><p></p><p>This issue will never see a courtroom though, and no .45-packing individual has anything to worry about. For someone to be prosecuted based on this, you would first have to have an officer who knows that a .45 ACP is actually .452", which I would bet the vast majority do not, and who is actually enough of an anti-liberty nazi that he is willing to arrest someone for this; and you would also have to have a DA who cares enough about this minute issue to actually press charges, knowing that a court would probably go the other way. Its just not going to happen.</p><p></p><p>But we should definitely add this law to the towering stack of horrible, anti-libertarian pieces of legislation that need to be repealed... along with the law that prohibits the public carry of weapons in the first place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="henschman, post: 1256500, member: 4235"] That's exactly my point about this law... the TC Contender in .30'06 and the MRI Lone Eagle in .308 (the picture I posted) are both legal to carry, since they both fire projectiles measuring .308"... well under the .45 requirement, no matter how you interpret it. However, they are both far more powerful and have far more penetration than a .50 GI, or even a .50 AE or .500 S&W. No vest short of a full ceramic plated one would stop them. And as far as pistol rounds go, the ones that penetrate the best are all of smaller caliber, like 5.7x28, 7.62x25, and .357 SIG. Sectional density is what defeats armor -- this is achieved with a small projectile with lots of energy behind it. Not that the people who write gun control laws have to know anything about the subject they are regulating... the same goes for most things those disgraces we elect to office make laws on. The economy is a good example... they are trying to regulate something about which they and their supposed "experts" obviously know very little. As for how the law would be interpreted, that is up to the courts. Many times they look to the dictionary definition of words when trying to construe a statute, but they also look to the legislative history to get at the true intent behind it. I think a court would likely recognize that the members of the legislature are not experts on firearms, and find that by the term ".45 caliber," the legislature was referring to cartridges that are commonly known as ".45s," like the .45 ACP. But who knows -- it is possible for them to go the other way, too. This issue will never see a courtroom though, and no .45-packing individual has anything to worry about. For someone to be prosecuted based on this, you would first have to have an officer who knows that a .45 ACP is actually .452", which I would bet the vast majority do not, and who is actually enough of an anti-liberty nazi that he is willing to arrest someone for this; and you would also have to have a DA who cares enough about this minute issue to actually press charges, knowing that a court would probably go the other way. Its just not going to happen. But we should definitely add this law to the towering stack of horrible, anti-libertarian pieces of legislation that need to be repealed... along with the law that prohibits the public carry of weapons in the first place. [/QUOTE]
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