Yeah, I get that people are acting like assholes. But people are leaving both sites. People who were decent contributors, whiny or not.
It'll come down to me waiting this drama out. I've been here too many years and have seen it too many times. Then, I'll go where the people go. If they ever decide. I'll go to the forum that has the most content I like. Right now, out of like half a dozen, it's 0 of them because everybody is spread out like a whore on nickle night. If a forum ever develops halfway decently, I'll be on that one. Even if that makes me a whiner. I'd rather do that than talk to myself.
What people can't seem to realize, is that they can choose to engage, or choose to leave something alone. I do it all the time, I see crap that bugs me, but realize I am not going to change the way someone thinks, so I leave it alone. It's really pretty easy once you learn how to do it, but some folks just can't.
For some reason though, I still can't leave long fairwells alone...