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<blockquote data-quote="Koshinn" data-source="post: 1528421" data-attributes="member: 18314"><p>Wasn't targetted at any particular person, but it was a general feel I'm getting from this thread that's basically "roll over and let the ATF make whatever regulations it wants without challenge." I was never actually advocating throwing a VFG on the front of an AR pistol, taking a picture of it with me next to it, then sending it to the ATF. But I was and am advocating other means of fighting the system.</p><p></p><p>I'm also a very strong advocate of concealed carry in my home state of Hawaii, which is a "may issue" state. There are almost no concealed carry permits issued in a state with a resident population of around 1 million. So I'm helping fight that battle there through legislation and public awareness, and I'm fighting this battle on what I consider an almost non-issue against the ATF. I'll admit, I'm doing this VFG on pistol thing mostly because I think it's a stupid rule that should be removed, not because I intend to put a VFG on a pistol, even if I succeed. By the time I get a response, I'll probably have my SBR stamp tax in hand anyway.</p><p></p><p>Oh and I did think about the AFG being brought into line with VFGs as a possible negative side effect, but even if it was, the other two points will then include AFGs and both are very strong points. But I specifically did not mention AR pistols anywhere in the letter, even though I could have made an argument with them. AFGs are just one product, which I would be sad if they released a letter disallowing them on pistols, but it wouldn't be a huge deal. However, I wouldn't want to risk AR pistols being labelled as AOWs or SBRs, which is why I left them out. Even though my honest unbiased opinion is that AR pistols <em>should be</em> classified as SBRs, I'm happy from a personal standpoint that they're pistols, so I won't jeopardize that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Koshinn, post: 1528421, member: 18314"] Wasn't targetted at any particular person, but it was a general feel I'm getting from this thread that's basically "roll over and let the ATF make whatever regulations it wants without challenge." I was never actually advocating throwing a VFG on the front of an AR pistol, taking a picture of it with me next to it, then sending it to the ATF. But I was and am advocating other means of fighting the system. I'm also a very strong advocate of concealed carry in my home state of Hawaii, which is a "may issue" state. There are almost no concealed carry permits issued in a state with a resident population of around 1 million. So I'm helping fight that battle there through legislation and public awareness, and I'm fighting this battle on what I consider an almost non-issue against the ATF. I'll admit, I'm doing this VFG on pistol thing mostly because I think it's a stupid rule that should be removed, not because I intend to put a VFG on a pistol, even if I succeed. By the time I get a response, I'll probably have my SBR stamp tax in hand anyway. Oh and I did think about the AFG being brought into line with VFGs as a possible negative side effect, but even if it was, the other two points will then include AFGs and both are very strong points. But I specifically did not mention AR pistols anywhere in the letter, even though I could have made an argument with them. AFGs are just one product, which I would be sad if they released a letter disallowing them on pistols, but it wouldn't be a huge deal. However, I wouldn't want to risk AR pistols being labelled as AOWs or SBRs, which is why I left them out. Even though my honest unbiased opinion is that AR pistols [I]should be[/I] classified as SBRs, I'm happy from a personal standpoint that they're pistols, so I won't jeopardize that. [/QUOTE]
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