ATF to ban/confiscate AA-12 shotguns?

[Fredkrueger100]

Here is another way the government can eradicate the 2A. The alphabet agency’s can just make up rules as they go. Such as the “bumpstock “ reversal. Now this. They could have easily had a company change the serial numbers on these guns. But nope. They want to take them. It has nothing to do with the serial numbers. This is about taking an effective shotgun out of the hands of law abiding citizens. There may not be many out there but that is beside the point. These agency’s are out of control. Expect more and more of this stuff to happen. All the ATF has to do is just issue a new decision making ALL semi autos illegal. We know they have no problem going against our constitution so why think they wouldn’t in this manner? As I have said before. No shots even have to be fired. Once millions are turned into felons overnight a huge multitude of so called pro gun folk will happily hand over their legally owned firearms. When faced with huge prison sentences and fines, mass amounts of folk will be scared into submission by our government. That doesn’t sound tyrannical at all does it?

 

[Tanis143]

Here is another way the government can eradicate the 2A. The alphabet agency’s can just make up rules as they go. Such as the “bumpstock “ reversal. Now this. They could have easily had a company change the serial numbers on these guns. But nope. They want to take them. It has nothing to do with the serial numbers. This is about taking an effective shotgun out of the hands of law abiding citizens. There may not be many out there but that is beside the point. These agency’s are out of control. Expect more and more of this stuff to happen. All the ATF has to do is just issue a new decision making ALL semi autos illegal. We know they have no problem going against our constitution so why think they wouldn’t in this manner? As I have said before. No shots even have to be fired. Once millions are turned into felons overnight a huge multitude of so called pro gun folk will happily hand over their legally owned firearms. When faced with huge prison sentences and fines, mass amounts of folk will be scared into submission by our government. That doesn’t sound tyrannical at all does it?

I usually see some of your posts as a bit on the fringe side, but not this one.

"The National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. 5845(b), defines a machine gun to include any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger."

This right here could nix every single AR variant on the market. Even if the lower does not have the third hole or the well for the auto sear. There are several adapters that can be dropped in that allows the FCG to function in full auto mode. "..can be readily restored to shoot.." covers every single one of our AR's. The ATF has already done it with the bump stock and now the AA12. They could also apply that to most striker fire semi-auto handguns. Right now they are in their trial phase, seeing how it plays out in court. If the bump stock lawsuit doesn't go in favor of gun owners, we will see this happen.

 

[BobbyV]

I usually see some of your posts as a bit on the fringe side, but not this one.

"The National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. 5845(b), defines a machine gun to include any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger."

This right here could nix every single AR variant on the market. Even if the lower does not have the third hole or the well for the auto sear. There are several adapters that can be dropped in that allows the FCG to function in full auto mode. "..can be readily restored to shoot.." covers every single one of our AR's. The ATF has already done it with the bump stock and now the AA12. They could also apply that to most striker fire semi-auto handguns. Right now they are in their trial phase, seeing how it plays out in court. If the bump stock lawsuit doesn't go in favor of gun owners, we will see this happen.

Goodness . . . really wish they'd deal with actual criminal behaviors and stop going after firearms the deem to have design "issues".

 

[bigred1]

Here is another way the government can eradicate the 2A. The alphabet agency’s can just make up rules as they go. Such as the “bumpstock “ reversal. Now this. They could have easily had a company change the serial numbers on these guns. But nope. They want to take them. It has nothing to do with the serial numbers. This is about taking an effective shotgun out of the hands of law abiding citizens. There may not be many out there but that is beside the point. These agency’s are out of control. Expect more and more of this stuff to happen. All the ATF has to do is just issue a new decision making ALL semi autos illegal. We know they have no problem going against our constitution so why think they wouldn’t in this manner? As I have said before. No shots even have to be fired. Once millions are turned into felons overnight a huge multitude of so called pro gun folk will happily hand over their legally owned firearms. When faced with huge prison sentences and fines, mass amounts of folk will be scared into submission by our government. That doesn’t sound tyrannical at all does it?

Dang, just noticed. Tony meet Freddie, Freddie meet Tony.. good post you two.

 

[D.M.]

Maybe the AA-12 is that fully simi auto thingy I heard about.

 

[AKguy1985]

Well, that sucks! Adrian brody used one in the movie predators as well.

 

[saltydog]

I usually see some of your posts as a bit on the fringe side, but not this one. The ATF has already done it with the bump stock and now the AA12. They could also apply that to most striker fire semi-auto handguns. Right now they are in their trial phase, seeing how it plays out in court. If the bump stock lawsuit doesn't go in favor of gun owners, we will see this happen.

If the bump stock lawsuit doesn’t go in favor of the American people, it will truly be all over!

 

[Seadog]

I don’t know the specifics. Just saw this on a post online. They posted two different letters, one sent to people that own the full auto version of the gun, and one sent to the people that own the semi-auto version. My understanding is that there have not been any semi auto AA12s until recently, like the last year or so. If that’s the case then this isn’t about the full autos. It’s about about the newly manufactured semi autos.

I believe the problem is with the new company SOLO INVICTUS. The are making and selling semi auto AA12s. I heard that there was a problem with where the pertinent info was marked. Something silly like on the mag release paddle. And that it was to easy to swap parts and make it full auto.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

None of this has anything to do with gangsters, Hollywood, child safety, mass murderers, bump stocks, officer safety, or any other so-called common sense action. It is about disarming a population (us) so we cannot resist being forced into a socialist/communist/Fascist/dictatorship to the benefit of dictators, tyrants, and despots. There is nothing munificent about any of this. There is nothing altruistic about this. It is only the selfish intent of those among us who believe they are superior, better educated, and enlightened and deserve to be our caretakers and direct us into servitude to support their greatness. Your mileage may vary, but if you can show me where I am wrong, I'll listen.

Bear in mind that no population of armed citizens has ever been overthrown and forced into servitude. An armed populace is the best deterrent to invasion.

Woody