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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 1614161" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>Peer Reviewed Journal or PR study, basically the accepted norm of published scientific study.</p><p></p><p>F=MA Sorry about the (X).... sausage fingers. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and this is what you cannot prove without a doubt or even an equality in stopping someone. You can guess, but it's nearly impossible to measure unless you shoot several people in the exact same location and compare. Don't think anyone would sign up for this. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> Gel tests are not 100% homologous to the human body, sure they are a great primer but they can't reproduce the charachteristics of projectiles in the human body in a complete manner. Mass WOULD play a factor in going through bone and tougher soft tissues (all things being equal), anyone that says different needs to go back to physics. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not obvious because you are looking at science in a remedial manner and making absolute statements. When someone explores the higher levels of study they can see that these are BS statements. So it's quite simple..... In the world of scientific study, when you say a variable (that is different) plays no significant part in a result then it is up to YOU to prove the equality. Don't believe me? Read up on Null hypotheis. So it's scientific Method 101 my friend.</p><p></p><p>Look, this is all pointless. You wanna believe 9mm is the end all be all, then great..... more power to you.... but if you keep trying to bust out junk science and study as a reference, you're gonna get called out on it. Lets just call it what it is..... an opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JD8, post: 1614161, member: 24"] Peer Reviewed Journal or PR study, basically the accepted norm of published scientific study. F=MA Sorry about the (X).... sausage fingers. and this is what you cannot prove without a doubt or even an equality in stopping someone. You can guess, but it's nearly impossible to measure unless you shoot several people in the exact same location and compare. Don't think anyone would sign up for this. :D Gel tests are not 100% homologous to the human body, sure they are a great primer but they can't reproduce the charachteristics of projectiles in the human body in a complete manner. Mass WOULD play a factor in going through bone and tougher soft tissues (all things being equal), anyone that says different needs to go back to physics. It's not obvious because you are looking at science in a remedial manner and making absolute statements. When someone explores the higher levels of study they can see that these are BS statements. So it's quite simple..... In the world of scientific study, when you say a variable (that is different) plays no significant part in a result then it is up to YOU to prove the equality. Don't believe me? Read up on Null hypotheis. So it's scientific Method 101 my friend. Look, this is all pointless. You wanna believe 9mm is the end all be all, then great..... more power to you.... but if you keep trying to bust out junk science and study as a reference, you're gonna get called out on it. Lets just call it what it is..... an opinion. [/QUOTE]
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