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Beretta M9/92F: OSA's Opinion
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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 1614446" data-attributes="member: 3099"><p>Well S4F beat me again, I was going to post that thread up. <img src="/images/smilies/bowdown.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bowdown:" title="Bowdown :bowdown:" data-shortname=":bowdown:" /></p><p></p><p>Without getting into the "debate" I'll just say that one ought to go read the link that S4F posted up and then read up on the Miami massacre. Because of this incident the FBI extensively studied the ballistics and performance of handgun rounds because several of their agents were killed and wounded <strong>AFTER</strong> the perp took a <strong>FATAL</strong> 9mm hit. He stayed up and kept fighting, but the autopsy showed he was a dead man walking, or rather in this case fighting. </p><p></p><p>So the FBI jumped off the deep end and went to the full house 10mm load, then they found out it was too hard for their agents to hit with due to recoil and went to 10mm "lite". This is what spawned the 40SW round we have today. Personally I have no qualms about carrying a 9mm in a +P or +P+ loading with a modern JHP bullet, but if I have to carry a FMJ give me the .45, it's proven to work well, while the 9mm FMJ is proven to be the opposite.</p><p></p><p>As to the O/P, I picked viable but not my first choice. In 9mm I'd much rather have a Sig, M&P or Glock.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowrider, post: 1614446, member: 3099"] Well S4F beat me again, I was going to post that thread up. :bowdown: Without getting into the "debate" I'll just say that one ought to go read the link that S4F posted up and then read up on the Miami massacre. Because of this incident the FBI extensively studied the ballistics and performance of handgun rounds because several of their agents were killed and wounded [B]AFTER[/B] the perp took a [B]FATAL[/B] 9mm hit. He stayed up and kept fighting, but the autopsy showed he was a dead man walking, or rather in this case fighting. So the FBI jumped off the deep end and went to the full house 10mm load, then they found out it was too hard for their agents to hit with due to recoil and went to 10mm "lite". This is what spawned the 40SW round we have today. Personally I have no qualms about carrying a 9mm in a +P or +P+ loading with a modern JHP bullet, but if I have to carry a FMJ give me the .45, it's proven to work well, while the 9mm FMJ is proven to be the opposite. As to the O/P, I picked viable but not my first choice. In 9mm I'd much rather have a Sig, M&P or Glock. [/QUOTE]
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