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<blockquote data-quote="KurtM" data-source="post: 998580" data-attributes="member: 6064"><p>Yes I will expand on it.</p><p>First the extractors a weak and don't grab shells very well and they like to break. Where the extractor cut is on the barrel is too deep on many models and this causes a "sticky extraction" Problem if you don't use high brass shells. Next the magazine cut off and shell stops are staked into the frame and usually loosen, or fall out causing, at best, hard reassembly, and at worst, having to pump the action two or three times in a row in order to get just a single shell to come out of the tube....I have taken to calling them "Double Pumpers"...just like the old Holleys. If you ever get a shell out onto the carrier and you don't have the Flex Tab carrier, you are pretty much done untill you either pry the shell forward or take the mag tube apart, If you do have the flex tab, and use it a few times, it quits flexing as it snaps off. The action bars are real easy to bend as they are small and not heat treated, Samll action bars make for a smooth gun, but if you ever bend them, it won't ever be smooth again. and yes I have seen them get bent durring a class and in competition. The up side is the trigger group...it is the only good part on the gun, that I haven't seen any issues with. Now couple all this with a too small loading port, and very sharp edges in and around the loading port, and you will ALWAYS have a BIG box of bandaides when you use one under time stress.</p><p></p><p>As for operator error, short stroking, etc. yep that cause lots of problems as well and no matter how much a person practices using a pump I guarantee that they will short strok it at some point in time while under stress, but that is whole nother can o worms</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KurtM, post: 998580, member: 6064"] Yes I will expand on it. First the extractors a weak and don't grab shells very well and they like to break. Where the extractor cut is on the barrel is too deep on many models and this causes a "sticky extraction" Problem if you don't use high brass shells. Next the magazine cut off and shell stops are staked into the frame and usually loosen, or fall out causing, at best, hard reassembly, and at worst, having to pump the action two or three times in a row in order to get just a single shell to come out of the tube....I have taken to calling them "Double Pumpers"...just like the old Holleys. If you ever get a shell out onto the carrier and you don't have the Flex Tab carrier, you are pretty much done untill you either pry the shell forward or take the mag tube apart, If you do have the flex tab, and use it a few times, it quits flexing as it snaps off. The action bars are real easy to bend as they are small and not heat treated, Samll action bars make for a smooth gun, but if you ever bend them, it won't ever be smooth again. and yes I have seen them get bent durring a class and in competition. The up side is the trigger group...it is the only good part on the gun, that I haven't seen any issues with. Now couple all this with a too small loading port, and very sharp edges in and around the loading port, and you will ALWAYS have a BIG box of bandaides when you use one under time stress. As for operator error, short stroking, etc. yep that cause lots of problems as well and no matter how much a person practices using a pump I guarantee that they will short strok it at some point in time while under stress, but that is whole nother can o worms [/QUOTE]
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