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I find it curiouser and curiouser that the Trumpsters continue to believe that their candidate is the Antimatter in this contest. I will keep this simple with one example of a large issue: tax platform. Trump only wants to change percentages and continue to push the current progressive tax system, while other candidates have advocated scrapping the current system. Scrapping the system is key to cleaning up the mess that is DC.

Going to a simple tax system would likely cause a Trumptype to pay more, as it would greatly reduce the legal manipulation of the system.

Tell me again how Trump is the "outsider"? Guy has been gaming the system for years and will end up like Pappy O'Daniel or Huey P. Long.
 

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You Cruse guys just got your feelings hurt by realizing you have been supporting a looser. Sorry about that, should have realized Cruse is just another Harvard lawyer turned politician.


While I am not a CRUZ supporter, and I don't consider him a "looser", whatever that may be, I thank you for reinforcing my previous post.
 
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It is interesting, to me at least, to hear all the comments from the people that are fed up with the “establishment” from both parties. Now that we have a choice of voting for someone in the establishment or someone who is not in the establishment many are not happy and almost hostile about it.

Because Bernie is a devout Socialist and this is a gun forum which I support, I count him out of my choices.

Do any of you think Obama comes up with how to do the things he has on his agenda? No, he “hired” a full cabinet of people that put together the results of how to accomplish what he is trying to do. He fires Generals and others that disagree with his agenda.

Trump will be the same way, he will put a cabinet in place to find ways to promote his agenda. To me, Trump is only a leader, not a doer himself, but a person who if given the opportunity will listen to and “hire” the best minds in the US to promote his agenda he is promoting. He will most likely fire the people that do not want to go along with his agenda, like all presidents have.

So far, every candidate who is a Politician and part of the “establishment” has lied to me and you and stabbed us in the back. So far Trump has not lied to me. Myself, I'll take a chance on a person who has not lied to me over a Politician that I know lies to my face any day, especially if the non-lier has a track record of being a successful person.

I do not care if Trump is crude, not PC, looks like a grown up Dennis the Menace or what ever. To me the question: is he smart enough to put a cabinet in place that is not controlled by “the establishment” most of us hate so much to make changes to how this country has been operated for many years? His past track record seems to indicate he knows how to take the opinion and hire the best of the best advisers. Does he really want to Make America Great Again. This remains to be seen. Right now I have no reason to doubt that.

So far I see that Trump knows how to grease palms to get what he wants done, whether it be from past business deals or the current media. Trump also knows how to not put up with BS from the “establishment” and all their paid followers to get things done.

Would I consider Trump the very best person to be President, I do not know. I can tell you I think he is the best hope to turn the US around we have at this point in time.

I do know I will vote for any candidate that I feel can break us away from “the establishment” control.
 

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It is interesting, to me at least, to hear all the comments from the people that are fed up with the “establishment” from both parties. Now that we have a choice of voting for someone in the establishment or someone who is not in the establishment many are not happy and almost hostile about it.

Because Bernie is a devout Socialist and this is a gun forum which I support, I count him out of my choices.

Do any of you think Obama comes up with how to do the things he has on his agenda? No, he “hired” a full cabinet of people that put together the results of how to accomplish what he is trying to do. He fires Generals and others that disagree with his agenda.

Trump will be the same way, he will put a cabinet in place to find ways to promote his agenda. To me, Trump is only a leader, not a doer himself, but a person who if given the opportunity will listen to and “hire” the best minds in the US to promote his agenda he is promoting. He will most likely fire the people that do not want to go along with his agenda, like all presidents have.

So far, every candidate who is a Politician and part of the “establishment” has lied to me and you and stabbed us in the back. So far Trump has not lied to me. Myself, I'll take a chance on a person who has not lied to me over a Politician that I know lies to my face any day, especially if the non-lier has a track record of being a successful person.

I do not care if Trump is crude, not PC, looks like a grown up Dennis the Menace or what ever. To me the question: is he smart enough to put a cabinet in place that is not controlled by “the establishment” most of us hate so much to make changes to how this country has been operated for many years? His past track record seems to indicate he knows how to take the opinion and hire the best of the best advisers. Does he really want to Make America Great Again. This remains to be seen. Right now I have no reason to doubt that.

So far I see that Trump knows how to grease palms to get what he wants done, whether it be from past business deals or the current media. Trump also knows how to not put up with BS from the “establishment” and all their paid followers to get things done.

Would I consider Trump the very best person to be President, I do not know. I can tell you I think he is the best hope to turn the US around we have at this point in time.

I do know I will vote for any candidate that I feel can break us away from “the establishment” control.

I agree. Right up to the belief that Trump is "not a part of the Establishment". Trump is an integral component to the Establishment. He has gamed the system to his advantage. This is just leveling-up for him. He has few articulated plans, his tax plan is the same old tired and abused crap (because that's to his advantage), and he's just pissing estrogen on the emotional bonfire that the Consolidated Party has stoked for their benefit.

Sanders is a Commie, but he is honest about being a Commie. Don't like him, won't vote for him, but he ain't the Trumplington camp.
 

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“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"
"What?"
"I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."
Ford shrugged again.
"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happenned to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."
"But that's terrible," said Arthur.
"Listen, bud," said Ford, "if I had one Altairian dollar for every time I heard one bit of the Universe look at another bit of the Universe and say 'That's terrible' I wouldn't be sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.”


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