Building Churches in Egypt and the Ground Zero Mosque

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ignerntbend

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Dale00 is correct, being a Christian in Indonesia is not much better then any other Muslim country. I used to visit a site that kept track of all the killings etc of Christian in Muslim countries and Indonesia is known not only for hacking off their heads with machetes but dragging the body behind a motorcycle. I stopped visiting after they posted pics of chopped up Christian kids.

I will try to find the site again if anyone wants it but will not post it. I will PM it to you.

Please put me on that P.M. list Rick.
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I am not a practicing Christian (or any other religion) but I have seen the difference with my own eyes. Christians may try to talk someone into accepting God but I have not heard of them using deadly force in a long, long time, unless you count Ireland of course and religion is just the excuse there not the real cause.

I will try to find that site for you but a good place to start that I can post for the public is Jihad Watch. A little over the top at times but does link some interesting info.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/indonesia/
 

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I am not a practicing Christian (or any other religion) but I have seen the difference with my own eyes. Christians may try to talk someone into accepting God but I have not heard of them using deadly force in a long, long time, unless you count Ireland of course and religion is just the excuse there not the real cause.

I will try to find that site for you but a good place to start that I can post for the public is Jihad Watch. A little over the top at times but does link some interesting info.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

Completely different issue. That isnt about converting, that is about loyalists trying to make the Church of England the church of Northern Ireland. That is nothing more than a turf war.

I have to admit, I have 180d on my view of the NYC Mosque. Considering it will be named for the mosque in spain (which was a conquest mosque) I think it is very evident the intentions,... if they could purchase G0 real-estate, I imagine they would and build the sucker right where the towers were.

Now, I recognize freedom of religions and property owner rights,... but something smells awfully rotten. I have been reading up on this Imam that is over the NYC mosque and I gotta say,... my tin foil hat is starting to vibrate from the conspiracy theories (relational charts).
 

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So, if Christian Missionaries are OK with you in the muslim world.
You should be Ok with Muslims talking to your children to convert them?

Just asking?:confused:

Yes, but not in any forced or coercive way. My son attended Arabic classes at a local mosque for awhile.

Are you against Christian missionaries being in Muslim countries? If so, why?
 

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What would be shocking would be an Islamic country that did not discriminate against Christians and people of other religions. If there is such a country, please let us know. All indications are that "the peace of Islam" means submission, not tolerance.

I feel very sorry for most Muslims. They are not radical terrorists but they are caught up in a bad thing. In many cases, converting means people trying to kill you. Hats off to Christian missionaries working in Muslim countries and to those who do find the courage to convert.

Saudi Arabia allows Christian Churches in Mecca. I think.
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Saudi Arabia allows Christian Churches in Mecca. I think.
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Some dry humor? I've often heard that Christians are not even allowed in Mecca and that bibles are torn up when discovered by Saudi police at the airport.

If the Wikipedia entry is correct, then private Christian worship occurs in homes but public worship is strictly prohibited:
Religious freedom is virtually non-existent. The Government does not provide legal recognition or protection for freedom of religion, and it is severely restricted in practice. As a matter of policy, the Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice; however, this right is not always respected in practice and is not defined in law.[2] Moreover, the preaching and public practice of non-Muslim religions is prohibited.[3] The Saudi Mutaween (Arabic: مطوعين), or Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (i.e., the religious police) enforces the prohibition on the public practice of non-Muslim religions. Sharia Law applies to all people inside Saudi Arabia, regardless of religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia
 

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I have not found that site yet but here is a little lite reading for you.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article547726.ece

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Two-Christians-Killed-in-Sulawesi-1689.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/0...s-outside-indonesias-capital/?test=latestnews

http://www.hvk.org/articles/1200/29.html

I must point out that the violence has only gotten bad in Indonesia in the last decade or so and that some Christians there are just as much to blame as the Muslims.
 

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