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Message: <blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 2392225" data-attributes="member: 15054">When i pushed my 45 bullets fast they began to tumble When recovered they had Zero rifling grooves. they looked like i sanded the sides on a masonry block.Those rounds were skidding through the barrel and powder burned around the outside of the bullet.But when i slugged my barrel it slugged at 454" i think..I will need to look through my notes on that one.I can't chamber a bullet large enough to be over bore diameter.So i am stuck with slower speeds for accurate ammo.Your 1911 i would bet is tighter than my Hi Point.A buddy of mine uses power pistol and 230gr bullets that are cast from wheel weights.and steel cases...we chronied some and they were shall i say above the speed of sound by a bit...<img src="/images/smilies/smile.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" data-shortname=":)" /> and they grouped good and no leading.I like steel cases.You never worry if you can find them all or not.</blockquote>