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Channel 8 -- Tulsa City Council trying to ban legal gun carry in city parks?
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<blockquote data-quote="Raoul Duke" data-source="post: 2140082" data-attributes="member: 27529"><p>Just make sure it is a city park and not a county park to obtain the desired effect. </p><p></p><p>The best way to hold this would be to do it in a manner that requires getting a special event permit that has to be approved by the city Council so they don't get to ignore the event like they want to ignore state law. They would have to put this on their agenda for approval in an open public meeting and public comments are allowed on these agenda items, so people could show up to the Council meeting and sign up to speak. So, the Councilors would have to sit there and hear directly from citizens about this, on the record, in a public forum. Plus, if they vote to deny it, I'm pretty sure it is grounds for a lawsuit and they could be held personally liable for damages. Requesting a road closure would satisfy the requirement, and it might be possible just to ask for a partial closure of a park parking lot to make this go before the Council for approval. Just be aware that the permit application must be filed within 60 days in advance of the date of the event. Make no mistake, if you choose to go this route, they will try to find any technicality as grounds to deny the application.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cityoftulsa.org/our-city/special-events.aspx" target="_blank">https://www.cityoftulsa.org/our-city/special-events.aspx</a> </p><p></p><p>On a smaller scale that wouldn't require Council approval, but would call attention to the city law by requiring the city parks department to issue a special event permit, all that is needed to require a park special event permit is to use a loud speaker, public address system, amplifier or any other device to amplify and direct sound at an event that is open to the public where 75 people or more will attend.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/administration/park-rules--ordinances.aspx" target="_blank">https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/administration/park-rules--ordinances.aspx</a></p><p></p><p>My suggestion would be to choose the location from one of the special events designated parks for either scenario. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/shelter-rentals,-special-events,-renting-amenities.aspx" target="_blank">https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/shelter-rentals,-special-events,-renting-amenities.aspx</a></p><p></p><p>I would recommend Veterans Park:</p><p></p><p>VETERANS, 1875 South Boulder Ave.</p><p>Over 15 acres of large Open Space (soccer field), large Shelter, splash pad, playground. Restrooms and electric available.</p><p></p><p>The reason being it has a shelter, restrooms and electricity available. Not to mention the significance of this pro 2A event being held at a park named in honor of the Veterans who defend the Constitution, from which our second amendment rights are derived. Plus, there aren't any buildings that someone might inadvertently carry into in violation of the law. The main drawback is parking isn't great, there is some available, but very large crowds seem to make it to big events here quite often with few problems.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i131.photobucket.com_albums_p315_TYProle_Screenshot2013_03_16at102932PM_zps26a181a1.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>If you wanted to go really big, I might suggest holding a 2A SDA carry march/rally from Veterans park to nearby Council Oak park(just a few blocks away) and back to Veterans Park for the rally that would require road closures along the route and therefore, Council approval. Additionally, marching to Council Oak park, where the Muscogee Creek tribe ended their forced march on the Trail of Tears would provide dramatic symbolism and call attention to what can happen when citizens are deprived of their second amendment rights.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.tulsapreservationcommission.org/nationalregister/buildings/index.pl?id=16" target="_blank">Council Oak Park</a></p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i131.photobucket.com_albums_p315_TYProle_Screenshot2013_03_16at101827PM_zps9626cdbd.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raoul Duke, post: 2140082, member: 27529"] Just make sure it is a city park and not a county park to obtain the desired effect. The best way to hold this would be to do it in a manner that requires getting a special event permit that has to be approved by the city Council so they don't get to ignore the event like they want to ignore state law. They would have to put this on their agenda for approval in an open public meeting and public comments are allowed on these agenda items, so people could show up to the Council meeting and sign up to speak. So, the Councilors would have to sit there and hear directly from citizens about this, on the record, in a public forum. Plus, if they vote to deny it, I'm pretty sure it is grounds for a lawsuit and they could be held personally liable for damages. Requesting a road closure would satisfy the requirement, and it might be possible just to ask for a partial closure of a park parking lot to make this go before the Council for approval. Just be aware that the permit application must be filed within 60 days in advance of the date of the event. Make no mistake, if you choose to go this route, they will try to find any technicality as grounds to deny the application. [URL="https://www.cityoftulsa.org/our-city/special-events.aspx"]https://www.cityoftulsa.org/our-city/special-events.aspx[/URL] On a smaller scale that wouldn't require Council approval, but would call attention to the city law by requiring the city parks department to issue a special event permit, all that is needed to require a park special event permit is to use a loud speaker, public address system, amplifier or any other device to amplify and direct sound at an event that is open to the public where 75 people or more will attend. [URL="https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/administration/park-rules--ordinances.aspx"]https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/administration/park-rules--ordinances.aspx[/URL] My suggestion would be to choose the location from one of the special events designated parks for either scenario. [URL="https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/shelter-rentals,-special-events,-renting-amenities.aspx"]https://www.cityoftulsa.org/culture--recreation/tulsa-parks/shelter-rentals,-special-events,-renting-amenities.aspx[/URL] I would recommend Veterans Park: VETERANS, 1875 South Boulder Ave. Over 15 acres of large Open Space (soccer field), large Shelter, splash pad, playground. Restrooms and electric available. The reason being it has a shelter, restrooms and electricity available. Not to mention the significance of this pro 2A event being held at a park named in honor of the Veterans who defend the Constitution, from which our second amendment rights are derived. Plus, there aren't any buildings that someone might inadvertently carry into in violation of the law. The main drawback is parking isn't great, there is some available, but very large crowds seem to make it to big events here quite often with few problems. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i131.photobucket.com_albums_p315_TYProle_Screenshot2013_03_16at102932PM_zps26a181a1.png[/IMG] If you wanted to go really big, I might suggest holding a 2A SDA carry march/rally from Veterans park to nearby Council Oak park(just a few blocks away) and back to Veterans Park for the rally that would require road closures along the route and therefore, Council approval. Additionally, marching to Council Oak park, where the Muscogee Creek tribe ended their forced march on the Trail of Tears would provide dramatic symbolism and call attention to what can happen when citizens are deprived of their second amendment rights. [URL="http://www.tulsapreservationcommission.org/nationalregister/buildings/index.pl?id=16"]Council Oak Park[/URL] [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i131.photobucket.com_albums_p315_TYProle_Screenshot2013_03_16at101827PM_zps9626cdbd.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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