Colin Powell

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BTW, that wasn't a threat, but more concern for your health. I had what amounts to a bucket of home-made salsa last night and had to drop a #3 this morning.

It was bad man... really bad...

Anyways, we were talking about politics right?
 

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So this must make me a racist.

I was thinking something a little more benign with respect to the OP. But if you want to identify the pair of you as racist I won't stand in your way.

Yep. You surely are living up to the type of person I really think you are and what many others probably think.

See my sig. It's probably never a good idea to claim you speak for others.
 

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Its funny to me that the folks who make vaguely crappy statements with their fingers ready and waiting to type "so you're saying I'm a racist" seem to be the first ones to dole out the name-calling and complain when others say "so you're saying".

I also find it hilarious that Powell is a Rino because he won't vote for Romney. WTF? If this were 2010, we'd all be bashing Romney, now he's our savior (sorry - I know that term is only used for Obummer-supporters - despite the level of blind-faith Romney's supporters that hated him just 1 year ago now have for Romney).

Bunch of people all acting like each other while pointing the finger, slinging poo and shouting insults.
 

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I don't think Colin has ever identified himself as a conservative, Republican yes, conservative no. I don't think it is a stretch that he actually agrees with the President's policies and supports him based on that. Nor do I think it is a stretch to think race may play a factor but it is probably not the only factor.

Statistics show that 95% of black voters supported Obama in 2008. We also had the strongest turnout of black voters ever in 2008. Democrats would have likely carried 90% of the black vote regardless of the race of their candidate. However, I don't think it is racist to believe that race plays a factor with many voters. Whether Colin is one of those, we'll never know.

I hate race discussions because they are rarely open and genuine. I will probably regret posting in this thread and may be called a racist as a result. I think I am somewhere in the middle on all the opinions offered so far.

Considering that anyone non-white is racist is typically off limits. This is frustrating for many white folks. If I were a black Republican voter, would I be rooting for a black President, regardless of policy? I don't know but I'm not ruling that out. I didn't vote for Obama and I won't vote for him this time either. I still viewed his election as a sign of progress in our country. I hoped that having a black president would provide some hope to young black men who have grown up thinking that they can't succeed because the man is going to keep them down. It will be a long time before we can truly understand the impact of the election in that regard.

For one black man to see the election of another black man making that sort of impact in the black community, regardless of his political affiliation, is neither wrong nor racist. So, I don't think it is racist to believe that race may have been a factor in Colin's choice. I don't think Colin is a racist if he allowed race to be a factor. Once we've had multiple black presidents or black presidential candidates become the norm, race should play a less significant role for voters. This time and last the race of the candidate is still of historical significance.
 

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Well, iirc, you are correct. So this must make me a racist. Why would you work for and vote R for the past 20+ years and then the first black D runs for office you vote for him. I could maybe see voting for him the first term wanting something a bit different than what the R had to offer but after seen what has happened the last four years and you still vote for the clown..........to me that screams he is voting for him due to color or he is truly a Democrate. No other way around it.

Im sure no white people voted for McCain and against Obama for similar reasons either. Can we have a more germane issue please?
 

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I don't think Colin has ever identified himself as a conservative, Republican yes, conservative no. I don't think it is a stretch that he actually agrees with the President's policies and supports him based on that. Nor do I think it is a stretch to think race may play a factor but it is probably not the only factor.

Statistics show that 95% of black voters supported Obama in 2008. We also had the strongest turnout of black voters ever in 2008. Democrats would have likely carried 90% of the black vote regardless of the race of their candidate. However, I don't think it is racist to believe that race plays a factor with many voters. Whether Colin is one of those, we'll never know.

I hate race discussions because they are rarely open and genuine. I will probably regret posting in this thread and may be called a racist as a result. I think I am somewhere in the middle on all the opinions offered so far.

Considering that anyone non-white is racist is typically off limits. This is frustrating for many white folks. If I were a black Republican voter, would I be rooting for a black President, regardless of policy? I don't know but I'm not ruling that out. I didn't vote for Obama and I won't vote for him this time either. I still viewed his election as a sign of progress in our country. I hoped that having a black president would provide some hope to young black men who have grown up thinking that they can't succeed because the man is going to keep them down. It will be a long time before we can truly understand the impact of the election in that regard.

For one black man to see the election of another black man making that sort of impact in the black community, regardless of his political affiliation, is neither wrong nor racist. So, I don't think it is racist to believe that race may have been a factor in Colin's choice. I don't think Colin is a racist if he allowed race to be a factor. Once we've had multiple black presidents or black presidential candidates become the norm, race should play a less significant role for voters. This time and last the race of the candidate is still of historical significance.

great post soonersfan
 

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