Concealed carry in Indian casino?

[CorpsVet]

Until a couple of weeks ago I had never been into an Indian casino. However a business conference I attended was held at the Hard Rock just east of Tulsa.

Since tribes have their own governments, police force, etc. I got to wondering if there were prohibitions about carrying on tribal property, similar to carrying in another state which may, or may not, recognize a CHL.

I left my weapon locked in my car, and I did not go into the casino area just the hotel and conference area, it got me to thinking about whether or not one would need to check with each and every tribal jurisdiction to see if my CHL would be valid on "Indian Land" whether a casino, a housing authority run by a tribe or any other property owned by a tribe including areas that public highways run through.

Anyone know the answer?

Thanks

 

[HMFIC]

uh ya...

I'm pretty sure that all tribes do not allow firearms at all under any circumstances other than LEO responding to emergencies

 

[thesensei]

"Parimutual wagering allowed by law" is one of the places specifically prohibited for concealed carry by the SDA. That's gambling, so casinos are off-limits by OK law.

Other than that, I've not been able to confirm the regulations on tribal lands, but I'm pretty sure that you're technically correct in your estimation. That said, tribal lands are pretty wide-spread over the state - it would be a nightmare to try to follow that!

 

[redmax51]

Carry in a casino you risk going to federal prison.

 

[Danny]

It would be up to the individual tribe. The State can't say it's off limits because the State has no jurisdiction there. What the State is talking about concerning the SDA is any casino, race track, etc., that is NOT tribal land, like Blue Ribbon Downs.

 

[Shadowrider]

Carry in a casino you risk going to federal prison.

True fact. ^^^^

It would be up to the individual tribe. The State can't say it's off limits because the State has no jurisdiction there. What the State is talking about concerning the SDA is any casino, race track, etc., that is NOT tribal land, like Blue Ribbon Downs.

Also true fact in every case that I'm aware of. ^^^^^

Almost all Indian tribal land is held in trust by the feds (think BIA). State law has no jurisdiction there. The feds and the tribe make the rules.

 

[Crosstimbers Okie]

It depends on the tribe... But, the tribes are under federal jurisdiction and the US Constitution applies. We recently had US Supreme Court decisions that declared that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right, and that's it's been incorporated into the 14th Amendmen't protections.

If Washington D.C. can no longer prohibit firearms, it's doubtful that tribes can either. However, there's that "reasonable regulation" that you have to be aware of.

 

[kdlong]

cherokee own blue ribbon downs now.

 

[WhiteyMacD]

It depends on the tribe... But, the tribes are under federal jurisdiction and the US Constitution applies. We recently had US Supreme Court decisions that declared that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right, and that's it's been incorporated into the 14th Amendmen't protections.

If Washington D.C. can no longer prohibit firearms, it's doubtful that tribes can either. However, there's that "reasonable regulation" that you have to be aware of.

I understand your logic, but the recent ruling is the right to own, not carry. I believe carrying is still a right granted to the state. The same parts of the constitution which allows states the right to make their own rules on carry would also be applicable to tribes regardless of their containing state laws.

I can say, tribal casinos is a no-no for carry. You will be looking at facing tribal and federal LE. As far as carrying on tribal land, as always consult the tribal courts for absolute answers.

 

[WhiteyMacD]

cherokee own blue ribbon downs now.

Ownership is moot if said property is on non tribal lands (reference, tribes can own assets that do not reside on tribal land).