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<blockquote data-quote="vvvvvvv" data-source="post: 1615703" data-attributes="member: 5151"><p>It most certainly is cherry picking. The law is very clear here.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=69745" target="_blank">21 O.S. § 1277</a>:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">A. It shall be unlawful for any person in possession of a valid concealed handgun license issued pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act to carry any concealed handgun into any of the following places:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">...</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>4</strong>. Any elementary or secondary school;</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">...</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">B. For purposes of <strong>paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 of subsection A</strong> of this section, the prohibited place does not include and specifically excludes the following [parking areas]:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Therefore, it is illegal to possess a firearm, loaded or unload, concealed or unconcealed, on any elementary or secondary school property, parking lot or not.</p><p></p><p>As others have said, the "unattended" part you are referencing is meant to protect other occupants of a vehicle in the event that you leave your firearm in the vehicle when entering a prohibited place. It is very clear in its intent and is in a completely separate section (not to mention separate Act with no reference to various sections prohibiting firearms on school property), and therefore does not apply as you wish it would. Even if it did make a reference, you have to consider scope. 21 O.S. § 1277 is much narrower in scope than 21 O.S. § 1289.7 and therefore controlling barring an Attorney General or Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals opinion.</p><p></p><p>When it comes to the law, there's no such thing as "reading between the lines". Yes, there's some grey, but the restrictions, liabilities, burdens, and allowances are there in plain text.</p><p></p><p>As others have said, if you don't agree with it, contact your legislators. However, I would like to add that if they don't respond in a favorable way, go run for office and force them to respond.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vvvvvvv, post: 1615703, member: 5151"] It most certainly is cherry picking. The law is very clear here. [URL="http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=69745"]21 O.S. § 1277[/URL]: [INDENT]A. It shall be unlawful for any person in possession of a valid concealed handgun license issued pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act to carry any concealed handgun into any of the following places: ... [B]4[/B]. Any elementary or secondary school; ... B. For purposes of [B]paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 of subsection A[/B] of this section, the prohibited place does not include and specifically excludes the following [parking areas]: [/INDENT] Therefore, it is illegal to possess a firearm, loaded or unload, concealed or unconcealed, on any elementary or secondary school property, parking lot or not. As others have said, the "unattended" part you are referencing is meant to protect other occupants of a vehicle in the event that you leave your firearm in the vehicle when entering a prohibited place. It is very clear in its intent and is in a completely separate section (not to mention separate Act with no reference to various sections prohibiting firearms on school property), and therefore does not apply as you wish it would. Even if it did make a reference, you have to consider scope. 21 O.S. § 1277 is much narrower in scope than 21 O.S. § 1289.7 and therefore controlling barring an Attorney General or Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals opinion. When it comes to the law, there's no such thing as "reading between the lines". Yes, there's some grey, but the restrictions, liabilities, burdens, and allowances are there in plain text. As others have said, if you don't agree with it, contact your legislators. However, I would like to add that if they don't respond in a favorable way, go run for office and force them to respond. [/QUOTE]
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