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<blockquote data-quote="Crosstimbers Okie" data-source="post: 1681839" data-attributes="member: 760"><p>Cop or not I can't think of any place where one has a greater expectation of privacy than while taking a dump in a restroom. If he was a cop he had no Probable Cause to search or arrest because he would know that the mere possession of a handgun is not evidence of a crime in Oklahoma, and that it's unreasonable not to expose the weapon to view when you have your pants down, and it's not exposed in public because the inside of a toilet stall is not a public place when it's occupied and no one has a right to make it a public place by circumventing the privacy barrier. And, if a kid is young enough to be so stupid as to peep on people taking a dump, he's probably too young to testify in court per state law anyway.</p><p></p><p>So, the proper answer to the question would be, "None of your business." The "cop" committed battery by grabbing the guy's arm, since it wasn't incident to a lawful arrest. Had he been a cop and been of firm legal ground he would have unequivocally taken charge of the situation, applied cuffs if necessary, and conducted a pat search. </p><p></p><p>I would have been tempted to hit 911 on the cellphone and enjoyed the show.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crosstimbers Okie, post: 1681839, member: 760"] Cop or not I can't think of any place where one has a greater expectation of privacy than while taking a dump in a restroom. If he was a cop he had no Probable Cause to search or arrest because he would know that the mere possession of a handgun is not evidence of a crime in Oklahoma, and that it's unreasonable not to expose the weapon to view when you have your pants down, and it's not exposed in public because the inside of a toilet stall is not a public place when it's occupied and no one has a right to make it a public place by circumventing the privacy barrier. And, if a kid is young enough to be so stupid as to peep on people taking a dump, he's probably too young to testify in court per state law anyway. So, the proper answer to the question would be, "None of your business." The "cop" committed battery by grabbing the guy's arm, since it wasn't incident to a lawful arrest. Had he been a cop and been of firm legal ground he would have unequivocally taken charge of the situation, applied cuffs if necessary, and conducted a pat search. I would have been tempted to hit 911 on the cellphone and enjoyed the show. [/QUOTE]
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