Conspiracy/False Flag - The Colorado Batman Shooting?

[mugsy]

OMG... you're sooo smart!! WOWZIE!!!

I did not claim to be "so smart" just commenting on how predictable certain reactions can be. I suggest that unless there is hard evidence not mere coincidences, that instead of crying conspiracy we simply address the issue - is the possibility of this kind of activity increased with greater gun availability? - the answer is Yes.
To say anything else is to lie. However, one can mitigate against these type events and we Gun carry supporters need to articulate that clearly not just yell "conspiracy" and act like that is good enough. We also need to restate clearly why the right to bear arms is so important and how, as with free speech, there will be abuses but banning is not the way to deal with whatever issues arise. Anyway that's my $.02

 

[cinco]

Curious what you think smells fishy? What doesn't add up? Not the reasons the article gives (all of which are pretty sophomoric), but as an intelligent, thinking person in your own words, what is wrong with "the story"?.

A guy walked into a theater and shot a bunch of people....Not much to "add up".

As I stated many times, my interest was drawn by the timing. Then it was the repeated and repeated references to Federal response, government services "there for you", emphasis on how "fast" response time was to the call. Officers on the scene within a minute and FBI/ATF there lickty-split.

It was just ODD - it just seemed to be slanted towards "the government is there for you in your time of need and we'll take care of you". This is what I considered fishy - it seemed like a promotion of the goverment as your protector.

On the other hand, we know the saying "don't let a tragedy go to waste". So I do accept the possibility of a simple explanation (as I've stated above).

We know the Feds have many fabricated "terrorists plots" that they foil in the nick of time. Did this one get away from them? Dunno. Has it happened before? Yep.

Was the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry as it seemed on the surface - or result of the Fast & Furious operation? By your logic, the murder of the agent was a clear cut case of drug runner-killing-agent with no further investigation required. There is a reason to investigate incidents instead of taking them at face value - wouldn't you say?

IF you start to look at deeper involvement by others (i.e. conspiracy), what are the motives? What would those involved have to gain? In the case of the .gov: justification for war on terror, Patriot Act, department budgets, personal/professional gain, promotion of some nefarious agenda? Who knows?

From the article:


FBI has a track record of staging similar assaults, then stopping them at the last minuteThis is not your run-of-the-mill crime of passion. It was a carefully planned, heavily funded and technically advanced attack. Who might be behind all this? The FBI, of course, which has a long history of setting up and staging similar attacks, then stopping them right before they happen. See four documented stories on these facts:

http://www.naturalnews.com/035849_domestic_terror_plots_FBI.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/034325_FBI_entrapment_terror_plots.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/033751_FBI_terrorism.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/035757_FBI_terror_plots_false_flag.html

As you soak all this in, remember that the FBI had admitted to setting up terror plots, providing the weapons and gear, staging the location of the bombings and even driving the vehicles to pull it off! This is not a conspiracy theory, it's been admitted by the FBI right out in the open. Even the New York Times openly reports all this in stories like this one:

NYT: Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-help...)

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years -- or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts. But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. ...the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving...



Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21NgM198k

 

[Hobbes]

Yeah, I know what you're saying.

We had a fire in the neighborhood one night last week and the fire department just happened to show up at the right time.
It's almost like they were saying "we're here to protect you".
Who knows, maybe they started that fire?

The timing was very ODD.

 

[LightningCrash]

LOL, how exactly would that give the believer a sense of control?

Do you actually think about the stuff you spew, or do you just randomly spew meaningless nothings naturally?

JB's right on the money.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...09/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories

 

[ripnbst]

We should all sell our guns to each other for 5 dollars and then we they come for our guns that are on paper we can say without lying we sold them all

 

[Popjim]

Lot of strange things going on recently.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

So what's the conspiracy here? That the Colorado shooter is some sort of mind controlled patsy that was created by the government in an attempt to condition us for more gun control?

Yeah...that makes so much more sense than maybe he was just a psycho killer.

I have no doubt that our government would create such a patsy, but I'm not to the point of believing it in this case.

 

[cinco]

17 people shot in copper top bar in Alabama 5 days ago:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/17/justice/alabama-shooting/index.html

Was that a conspiracy too????

I think the 71-year old guy who shot the robbers in Florida last week was a conspiracy staged to forward the cause of CCW'ers. Pretty coincidental timing, with that UN Small Arms treaty and all this week.

Yeah, I know what you're saying.

We had a fire in the neighborhood one night last week and the fire department just happened to show up at the right time.
It's almost like they were saying "we're here to protect you".
Who knows, maybe they started that fire?

The timing was very ODD.

JB's right on the money.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...09/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories

Tit for tat. From your referenced website. All about perspective isn't it?

What is rankism and why do we “do” it? Rankism is what Somebodies do to people they take for nobodies.

Rankism is an assertion of superiority. It typically takes the form of putting others down. It's what "Somebodies" do to "nobodies." Or, more precisely, it is what people who think they're Somebodies do to people they take for nobodies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...es/201002/what-is-rankism-and-why-do-we-do-it

 

[HackerF15E]

It's easier for some people to believe in conspiracies because that belief gives order to chaos. It gives the believer a sense of control. They cannot accept that life is simply full of random events, both wonderful and horrible.

Conspiracies and organized religion.

 

[LightningCrash]

Tit for tat. From your referenced website. All about perspective isn't it?

What is rankism and why do we “do” it? Rankism is what Somebodies do to people they take for nobodies.

Rankism is an assertion of superiority. It typically takes the form of putting others down. It's what "Somebodies" do to "nobodies." Or, more precisely, it is what people who think they're Somebodies do to people they take for nobodies.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...es/201002/what-is-rankism-and-why-do-we-do-it

Same link "Once you have a word for it, you see rankism everywhere."