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<blockquote data-quote="Aries" data-source="post: 3559691" data-attributes="member: 44328"><p>I'm going to say this, and I know I'm going to get shouted down. Not that I'm an expert, but I do listen and try to see things from different perspectives.</p><p></p><p>Many black people genuinely feel that if they get stopped they are going to end up getting arrested or killed. They often don't trust the police to treat them fairly so their reaction is fight or flight. Telling them 'just cooperate' would be like if I said if someone tries to hijack your car, just cooperate and it'll be fine. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but if you get a chance to get away from it, that's probably what you'll do because it's a dangerous situation. That's how they feel about interactions with the police.</p><p></p><p>So we see this and say, well... if they didn't have warrants and would cooperate, they'd be fine. They see it and say, it was just an expired tag or air freshener on his rear view mirror or whatever, and if he wasn't black he never would have been pulled over to begin with. So they'll see that as an excuse to pull him over and see what he was up to, and he ended up dead.</p><p></p><p>If you watched the video of the Army Lieutenant who got pepper sprayed, you might have gotten a sense of this. He didn't want to get out of his car and said he was afraid, but he wasn't just some hood rat with warrants. But he looked afraid, and he got pepper sprayed and thrown on the ground. Many black people will see this as typical interaction with the police, regardless of the circumstances.</p><p></p><p>I know the tendency will be to focus on this one incident and justify it. It's not about this one guy. It's not about George Floyd. It's about ALL of these incidents that have happened over several years, most of which look justifiable, but a few of which have some problems. They see them as another black person gets killed by the police or some white person, who isn't held accountable.</p><p></p><p>There is a very, very deep division right now between races, a lot of it has to do with so many of these incidents. Somebody will say it's just how it's reported in the news, but it doesn't matter. It is still their perception. I don't know what the solution is, but I don't think it's going to get any better because no one really listens to the other perspective.</p><p></p><p>I am certainly not saying the police are always wrong, I'm just saying there is another side to this issue. To them, it's not as simple as saying 'just cooperate'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aries, post: 3559691, member: 44328"] I'm going to say this, and I know I'm going to get shouted down. Not that I'm an expert, but I do listen and try to see things from different perspectives. Many black people genuinely feel that if they get stopped they are going to end up getting arrested or killed. They often don't trust the police to treat them fairly so their reaction is fight or flight. Telling them 'just cooperate' would be like if I said if someone tries to hijack your car, just cooperate and it'll be fine. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but if you get a chance to get away from it, that's probably what you'll do because it's a dangerous situation. That's how they feel about interactions with the police. So we see this and say, well... if they didn't have warrants and would cooperate, they'd be fine. They see it and say, it was just an expired tag or air freshener on his rear view mirror or whatever, and if he wasn't black he never would have been pulled over to begin with. So they'll see that as an excuse to pull him over and see what he was up to, and he ended up dead. If you watched the video of the Army Lieutenant who got pepper sprayed, you might have gotten a sense of this. He didn't want to get out of his car and said he was afraid, but he wasn't just some hood rat with warrants. But he looked afraid, and he got pepper sprayed and thrown on the ground. Many black people will see this as typical interaction with the police, regardless of the circumstances. I know the tendency will be to focus on this one incident and justify it. It's not about this one guy. It's not about George Floyd. It's about ALL of these incidents that have happened over several years, most of which look justifiable, but a few of which have some problems. They see them as another black person gets killed by the police or some white person, who isn't held accountable. There is a very, very deep division right now between races, a lot of it has to do with so many of these incidents. Somebody will say it's just how it's reported in the news, but it doesn't matter. It is still their perception. I don't know what the solution is, but I don't think it's going to get any better because no one really listens to the other perspective. I am certainly not saying the police are always wrong, I'm just saying there is another side to this issue. To them, it's not as simple as saying 'just cooperate'. [/QUOTE]
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