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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 823622" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>This is ALWAYS a 50/50 argument.</p><p></p><p>I really don't suppport antler restrictions. For one thing, it varies greatly. I have passed on a yearling buck that had 8 points. Obviously this is the kind of deer we need to pass, yet it wuld be legal even under restrictions.</p><p>For another thing, I have seen a mature deer with a pretty large rack and good spread for my area that only had 5-6 points. I have seen 6 points I would love to have on my wall (big 8's with no brow tines).</p><p>Plus I've read the big game report in Oklahoma for years and don't think it would be beneficial based on that.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, states that have them sometimes show improvement in number of surviving bucks, at least from hunters I have talked to that hunt there.</p><p></p><p>But bottom line, I don't agree with antler restrictions. If anything, we just need to educate people and hope they won't shoot as many young bucks.</p><p></p><p>It's all about age, not antler points. I hunt the hills of far eastern Oklahoma. No crops, not too many fat deer with large racks. There are a few, but not many. 2 of the largest bucks off my place were a 3.5 or 4.5 year old that went 114" I took, and a 6.5 year old that went 123", 110 and 136 pounds dressed respectively. That's typical for my area. they usually don't get any larger. The genetics and terrain and food sources make large bucks very rare. </p><p>Deer that western Okies would sneeze at are really good bucks to me.</p><p></p><p>I also don't like earn-a-buck that much. It is just as hard to take a doe as a buck for me. I hunt in the woods, no farm fields, no corn feeders nothing like that. I hunt does just like I hunt bucks, scouting and studying terrain. </p><p>I have met alot of guys at work and what not that have feeders or farm fields they can pop a doe off of anytime they please. It's a bit harder for some of us. Besides, our doe harvest is getting pretty good.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, I think the current regs are working for the time being. The drop to a 2 buck limit helped some. A shift in attitudes helps some to. We just need to make in not be popular to shoot young bucks.</p><p></p><p>I pass bucks based on how old I think they are, not based on rack size. A 115" inch deer is a really nice buck to me, and that is how big most mature bucks get in my area. Anything larger is the exception, not the rule.</p><p></p><p>Right now I don't think we need it, but If needed later I would support a one buck limit. I would be against earn-a-buck and antler restrictions unless something DRASTIC happens to our herd. Right now, I think they have it just about right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 823622, member: 4319"] This is ALWAYS a 50/50 argument. I really don't suppport antler restrictions. For one thing, it varies greatly. I have passed on a yearling buck that had 8 points. Obviously this is the kind of deer we need to pass, yet it wuld be legal even under restrictions. For another thing, I have seen a mature deer with a pretty large rack and good spread for my area that only had 5-6 points. I have seen 6 points I would love to have on my wall (big 8's with no brow tines). Plus I've read the big game report in Oklahoma for years and don't think it would be beneficial based on that. On the other hand, states that have them sometimes show improvement in number of surviving bucks, at least from hunters I have talked to that hunt there. But bottom line, I don't agree with antler restrictions. If anything, we just need to educate people and hope they won't shoot as many young bucks. It's all about age, not antler points. I hunt the hills of far eastern Oklahoma. No crops, not too many fat deer with large racks. There are a few, but not many. 2 of the largest bucks off my place were a 3.5 or 4.5 year old that went 114" I took, and a 6.5 year old that went 123", 110 and 136 pounds dressed respectively. That's typical for my area. they usually don't get any larger. The genetics and terrain and food sources make large bucks very rare. Deer that western Okies would sneeze at are really good bucks to me. I also don't like earn-a-buck that much. It is just as hard to take a doe as a buck for me. I hunt in the woods, no farm fields, no corn feeders nothing like that. I hunt does just like I hunt bucks, scouting and studying terrain. I have met alot of guys at work and what not that have feeders or farm fields they can pop a doe off of anytime they please. It's a bit harder for some of us. Besides, our doe harvest is getting pretty good. Bottom line, I think the current regs are working for the time being. The drop to a 2 buck limit helped some. A shift in attitudes helps some to. We just need to make in not be popular to shoot young bucks. I pass bucks based on how old I think they are, not based on rack size. A 115" inch deer is a really nice buck to me, and that is how big most mature bucks get in my area. Anything larger is the exception, not the rule. Right now I don't think we need it, but If needed later I would support a one buck limit. I would be against earn-a-buck and antler restrictions unless something DRASTIC happens to our herd. Right now, I think they have it just about right. [/QUOTE]
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