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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 2329796" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>Lurker is spot on. We just like to "rub fenders" when we bench race, it's all good! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have a reason for not saying. This was a wounded veteran's (and their families) benefit event. All of the firearms, ammunition, range, targets, staff, etc. are donated. I refuse to say anything that would dissuade any of them from supporting the event in the future. There were multiple configurations of rifles and about 12 AR's total. We function tested and zeroed all of them the day before the event. Two were deemed unsuitable then and set aside for reliability reasons. Five were initially selected to represent the broadest cross-section of the various configurations on hand. Of those five, two went down and were rotated out, with two more rotated in. IIRC, the 1st down gun lasted about 150 rounds, the 2nd was around 200+. The rest performed without issue. None of them broke.</p><p></p><p>The reason I "called" the guns is because I had several police explorer volunteers on hand. The were loading magazines and sweeping brass. I used it as an opportunity to explain to them the roles and responsibilities of a range officer. I explained what I was looking for and what the Army volunteers were doing as they worked with each of the participants. As I was doing this, I also took the time to explain to them what I observed on the firing line. We had four guns running simultaneously. I explained that the one on the left was behaving erratically. The 2nd from the left was overgassed and would run for the entire event, albeit with excessive recoil and the possibility of breaking in the future. The 3rd was undergassed and was going to choke once it became too fouled. The fourth was pretty much spot on. </p><p></p><p>Sure enough, the one on the left choked 1st, and #3 was about 10 minutes behind it. The explorers looked at me like I was some kind of wizard. All I'm willing to say is that the Marketing Director for Colt's Manufacturing LLC was also there loading magazines and sweeping brass. At the end of the event, he was very pleased. That really wasn't a surprise to me. </p><p></p><p>Please keep in mind that the sustained rate of fire during this 3 hour event was right at the recommended maximum sustained rate of fire for the military. That's a crucible for any platform. Not everyone would subject their rifle to that sort of treatment. That's why I'm not recommending the OP go out and spend more on a rifle than he could a rifle and 1,000 rounds of ammo. If applied correctly, he'll be a far better rifleman with the cheaper gun and more ammo once he's fired it, than the expensive gun and a couple of mags worth of ammo downrange. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 2329796, member: 1132"] Lurker is spot on. We just like to "rub fenders" when we bench race, it's all good! :D I have a reason for not saying. This was a wounded veteran's (and their families) benefit event. All of the firearms, ammunition, range, targets, staff, etc. are donated. I refuse to say anything that would dissuade any of them from supporting the event in the future. There were multiple configurations of rifles and about 12 AR's total. We function tested and zeroed all of them the day before the event. Two were deemed unsuitable then and set aside for reliability reasons. Five were initially selected to represent the broadest cross-section of the various configurations on hand. Of those five, two went down and were rotated out, with two more rotated in. IIRC, the 1st down gun lasted about 150 rounds, the 2nd was around 200+. The rest performed without issue. None of them broke. The reason I "called" the guns is because I had several police explorer volunteers on hand. The were loading magazines and sweeping brass. I used it as an opportunity to explain to them the roles and responsibilities of a range officer. I explained what I was looking for and what the Army volunteers were doing as they worked with each of the participants. As I was doing this, I also took the time to explain to them what I observed on the firing line. We had four guns running simultaneously. I explained that the one on the left was behaving erratically. The 2nd from the left was overgassed and would run for the entire event, albeit with excessive recoil and the possibility of breaking in the future. The 3rd was undergassed and was going to choke once it became too fouled. The fourth was pretty much spot on. Sure enough, the one on the left choked 1st, and #3 was about 10 minutes behind it. The explorers looked at me like I was some kind of wizard. All I'm willing to say is that the Marketing Director for Colt's Manufacturing LLC was also there loading magazines and sweeping brass. At the end of the event, he was very pleased. That really wasn't a surprise to me. Please keep in mind that the sustained rate of fire during this 3 hour event was right at the recommended maximum sustained rate of fire for the military. That's a crucible for any platform. Not everyone would subject their rifle to that sort of treatment. That's why I'm not recommending the OP go out and spend more on a rifle than he could a rifle and 1,000 rounds of ammo. If applied correctly, he'll be a far better rifleman with the cheaper gun and more ammo once he's fired it, than the expensive gun and a couple of mags worth of ammo downrange. :) [/QUOTE]
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