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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1621723" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>It's not a slippery slope argument at all, and it's really not widescale.</p><p></p><p>As already posted, 2% failed the test if Florida. Oh my heavens.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.news-press.com/article/20110828/NEWS01/108280382/Florida-welfare-drug-tests-largely-clean" target="_blank">http://www.news-press.com/article/20110828/NEWS01/108280382/Florida-welfare-drug-tests-largely-clean</a></p><p></p><p>It's a silly political ploy and nothing more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not to mention marijuana is detectable in urine for a much longer period than most other substances. It's much, much easier for a crankster or a cokehead to pee clean than it is Stoney McStonerson. That's why drug testing employees is so silly. You could bury yourself up in some blow and kill hookers every weekend and still have a very good chance of peeing clean, but if you smoke pot once a week you're likely to fail.</p><p></p><p>Now RidgeHunter is going to get real prickish and tell it how it is. People talk about knowing abusers and druggies that are on the take. Let's be honest here, most people on assistance either lack good decision making skills or are intentionally lazy and scamming the system. Sorry, just the way it is. Most of them that have kids probably conceived those kids<em> while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.</em> Yeah, I'm a jerk for saying it, but you all know it's true.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I know hard times can fall on anyone and all that, but if we're going to say "we shouldn't give money to drug users because they are abusing the system" we should just not give money to anyone. You have someone who has a baby while single and unemployed, and we talk about drug use being irresponsible. </p><p></p><p>The responsible folks ain't on welfare. Welfare goes to people who screw up. It's kind of an all or nothing deal. "only giving assistance to the responsible" is like "only giving wheelchairs to the non-handicapped". If we only want to give welfare to those who don't need it, let's just do away with welfare.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1621723, member: 4319"] It's not a slippery slope argument at all, and it's really not widescale. As already posted, 2% failed the test if Florida. Oh my heavens. [URL="http://www.news-press.com/article/20110828/NEWS01/108280382/Florida-welfare-drug-tests-largely-clean"]http://www.news-press.com/article/20110828/NEWS01/108280382/Florida-welfare-drug-tests-largely-clean[/URL] It's a silly political ploy and nothing more. Not to mention marijuana is detectable in urine for a much longer period than most other substances. It's much, much easier for a crankster or a cokehead to pee clean than it is Stoney McStonerson. That's why drug testing employees is so silly. You could bury yourself up in some blow and kill hookers every weekend and still have a very good chance of peeing clean, but if you smoke pot once a week you're likely to fail. Now RidgeHunter is going to get real prickish and tell it how it is. People talk about knowing abusers and druggies that are on the take. Let's be honest here, most people on assistance either lack good decision making skills or are intentionally lazy and scamming the system. Sorry, just the way it is. Most of them that have kids probably conceived those kids[I] while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.[/I] Yeah, I'm a jerk for saying it, but you all know it's true. Yeah, I know hard times can fall on anyone and all that, but if we're going to say "we shouldn't give money to drug users because they are abusing the system" we should just not give money to anyone. You have someone who has a baby while single and unemployed, and we talk about drug use being irresponsible. The responsible folks ain't on welfare. Welfare goes to people who screw up. It's kind of an all or nothing deal. "only giving assistance to the responsible" is like "only giving wheelchairs to the non-handicapped". If we only want to give welfare to those who don't need it, let's just do away with welfare. [/QUOTE]
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