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<blockquote data-quote="cmhbob" data-source="post: 1622688" data-attributes="member: 20220"><p>I've skimmed about half of the 14 pages this thread has accumulated, and thought I'd go ahead and weigh in as a transplanted Southern-born Yankee.</p><p></p><p>How is drug testing going to fix the problem that Sykes mentions?</p><p> How does drug testing fix that? That's the first question anyone should be asking. If the proposed legislation doesn't fix the problem they claim it does, then the proposed legislation is a bad idea. Period. </p><p></p><p>So to fix the problem of people selling their card, allow or require merchants to require photo ID when a benefit card is used. If the names don't match, don't allow the card to be used, and seize it if it can be safely done, and call the cops. That doesn't inconvenience anyone that way.</p><p></p><p>As far as drug testing for benefits, the devil is always in the details. One person signs the application, but the entire family receives value from the benefits. Therefore, you must test everyone in the family, or test no one. If anyone in the family tests positive, they have to leave the family unit so that they no longer receive any value from the benefits. Otherwise, you're penalizing the family for the actions of one person. Of course, then you're face with explaining to a 5-year-old why they have to pee in a cup....</p><p></p><p>As several have pointed out, not every job requires drug testing. And of all the times I've taken a pre-employment drug test, I have <em>never</em> been required to pay for it myself. The idea of requiring someone who needs financial help to pay for a test to qualify for that help is pretty stupid when you look at it objectively. "I know you need money. But first give me some money, so we can make sure we're allowed to give you money."</p><p></p><p>Just some thoughts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cmhbob, post: 1622688, member: 20220"] I've skimmed about half of the 14 pages this thread has accumulated, and thought I'd go ahead and weigh in as a transplanted Southern-born Yankee. How is drug testing going to fix the problem that Sykes mentions? How does drug testing fix that? That's the first question anyone should be asking. If the proposed legislation doesn't fix the problem they claim it does, then the proposed legislation is a bad idea. Period. So to fix the problem of people selling their card, allow or require merchants to require photo ID when a benefit card is used. If the names don't match, don't allow the card to be used, and seize it if it can be safely done, and call the cops. That doesn't inconvenience anyone that way. As far as drug testing for benefits, the devil is always in the details. One person signs the application, but the entire family receives value from the benefits. Therefore, you must test everyone in the family, or test no one. If anyone in the family tests positive, they have to leave the family unit so that they no longer receive any value from the benefits. Otherwise, you're penalizing the family for the actions of one person. Of course, then you're face with explaining to a 5-year-old why they have to pee in a cup.... As several have pointed out, not every job requires drug testing. And of all the times I've taken a pre-employment drug test, I have [I]never[/I] been required to pay for it myself. The idea of requiring someone who needs financial help to pay for a test to qualify for that help is pretty stupid when you look at it objectively. "I know you need money. But first give me some money, so we can make sure we're allowed to give you money." Just some thoughts. [/QUOTE]
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