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<blockquote data-quote="JEVapa" data-source="post: 4063457" data-attributes="member: 41176">I was in when that was going on and retired into industry and worked at one place doing thermal sight BD, then went to L3 when they finished and finally cleaned it up.&nbsp; About a 9-10 yr process.&nbsp; My boss at my first civilian job, went to L3 and was called to testify to Congress 2 weeks after he got there - &quot;make the new guy do it&quot; kinda thing.The defective sights were an easy fix - hence you have XPS with sideways batteries and new contacts in battery boxes running lengthwise (L3 engineers fixed that) to fix the shorts and burned contacts; but that&#039;s not what they were hiding.They had a serious thermal drift issue (POI/POA and zero shift) at altitude and temp swings, and they kept saying it was fixed but wasn&#039;t and lied or decived the GOV repeatedly.&nbsp; Even when they kind of fixed it, L3 had to pay millions of dollars.&nbsp; It&#039;s still an issue especially with any kind of MRD or reflex.&nbsp; Eotech just got caught because they had USG contracts and testing is what caught it. If any other company had a contract with the same kind of sight they&#039;d get caught too, then the decision is to lie or not to the GOV. The thing is, is that Eotech is the only US made reflex sight manufacturer that meets all the requirements for the contract.&nbsp; Nobody else does, so that&#039;s why it&#039;s still going strong. If you were still a Leatherneck then, you weren&#039;t supposed to still have those old battery boxes.&nbsp; They were supposed to change them all out or swap sights.&nbsp; But I see it a lot with Marines and their arms rooms, they never get rid of sh*t. If you were a civilian at the time, then that was in the grace period to swap the sights for new.Most civilians don&#039;t know what mil-spec is.&nbsp; Eotechs cost $700+ because they recoup all the cost for being &quot;mil-spec&quot;.&nbsp; &quot;mil-spec&quot; ain&#039;t free and they roll all the testing cost into your &quot;mil-spec&#039;&quot; device.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JEVapa, post: 4063457, member: 41176"] I was in when that was going on and retired into industry and worked at one place doing thermal sight BD, then went to L3 when they finished and finally cleaned it up. About a 9-10 yr process. My boss at my first civilian job, went to L3 and was called to testify to Congress 2 weeks after he got there - "make the new guy do it" kinda thing. The defective sights were an easy fix - hence you have XPS with sideways batteries and new contacts in battery boxes running lengthwise (L3 engineers fixed that) to fix the shorts and burned contacts; but that's not what they were hiding. They had a serious thermal drift issue (POI/POA and zero shift) at altitude and temp swings, and they kept saying it was fixed but wasn't and lied or decived the GOV repeatedly. Even when they kind of fixed it, L3 had to pay millions of dollars. It's still an issue especially with [U]any kind of MRD or reflex[/U]. Eotech just got caught because they had USG contracts and testing is what caught it. If any other company had a contract with the same kind of sight they'd get caught too, then the decision is to lie or not to the GOV. The thing is, is that Eotech is the only US made reflex sight manufacturer that meets all the requirements for the contract. Nobody else does, so that's why it's still going strong. If you were still a Leatherneck then, you weren't supposed to still have those old battery boxes. They were supposed to change them all out or swap sights. But I see it a lot with Marines and their arms rooms, they never get rid of sh*t. If you were a civilian at the time, then that was in the grace period to swap the sights for new. Most civilians don't know what mil-spec is. Eotechs cost $700+ because they recoup all the cost for being "mil-spec". "mil-spec" ain't free and they roll all the testing cost into your "mil-spec'" device. [/QUOTE]

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