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<blockquote data-quote="Brandi" data-source="post: 2629725" data-attributes="member: 24446"><p>I have defensive handguns in 9mm, .40S&W and .45acp (in addition to revolver calibers) and that's more because I like the gun more than the caliber. The FBI can do whatever they want, when I started out as a LEO everyone pretty much copyed what the FBI did and it was a giant CF. I traded my 9mm in during the big migration and went to the .45acp along with most other LEO's with the exception of those who went with the .40S&W. There weren't any problems after that, the .45acp is a big, hard hitting caliber that is easy to control so no issues there. Contrary to everything I've heard about people having issues shooting the .40S&W I've never seen it. I've only ever seen two officers struggle with qualifying, both males and both were just not familiar enough with a handgun, it had nothing to do with caliber. They were pulled aside and given additional training after which both qualified with good scores and went to work. The only gun I ever saw a female rookie have issues with was the shotgun and that thing beat everyone black and blue that day.</p><p></p><p>Now the FBI says with modern +P or +P+ 9mm they can get results similar to those that they got with the .40S&W and .45acp. That may be but if they have that many agents struggling to handle the recoil of standard pressure .40S&W or standard pressure .45acp, I question how they are now able to better handle hotter 9mm? The capacity issue is a given, it's the one thing that I loved about my original 9mm but the issue now seems to be choosing a caliber that all their agents can handle, not capacity. So if new +P or +P+ 9mm (depending on what they end up using) is now as good as standard pressure .40 or .45, why not compare it against +P or "heavy" .40S&W and .45acp? That would be apples to apples then wouldn't it? I'm assuming that the +P/+P+/heavy loads in the 9mm aren't too hot to be unmanageable while the same versions in .40 and .45 are not maneagable. Who knows...the FBI has always made some really bizarre gun choices. Regardless, I'll stick with the .45acp as my preferred defense caliber, there's no question with it.</p><p></p><p>Or...maybe they are changing the caliber so they can get all of the militarys potentially soon to be defunct 9mm M9's...they get all the handguns they want and they make sure they never end up in the hands of those evil civilians.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandi, post: 2629725, member: 24446"] I have defensive handguns in 9mm, .40S&W and .45acp (in addition to revolver calibers) and that's more because I like the gun more than the caliber. The FBI can do whatever they want, when I started out as a LEO everyone pretty much copyed what the FBI did and it was a giant CF. I traded my 9mm in during the big migration and went to the .45acp along with most other LEO's with the exception of those who went with the .40S&W. There weren't any problems after that, the .45acp is a big, hard hitting caliber that is easy to control so no issues there. Contrary to everything I've heard about people having issues shooting the .40S&W I've never seen it. I've only ever seen two officers struggle with qualifying, both males and both were just not familiar enough with a handgun, it had nothing to do with caliber. They were pulled aside and given additional training after which both qualified with good scores and went to work. The only gun I ever saw a female rookie have issues with was the shotgun and that thing beat everyone black and blue that day. Now the FBI says with modern +P or +P+ 9mm they can get results similar to those that they got with the .40S&W and .45acp. That may be but if they have that many agents struggling to handle the recoil of standard pressure .40S&W or standard pressure .45acp, I question how they are now able to better handle hotter 9mm? The capacity issue is a given, it's the one thing that I loved about my original 9mm but the issue now seems to be choosing a caliber that all their agents can handle, not capacity. So if new +P or +P+ 9mm (depending on what they end up using) is now as good as standard pressure .40 or .45, why not compare it against +P or "heavy" .40S&W and .45acp? That would be apples to apples then wouldn't it? I'm assuming that the +P/+P+/heavy loads in the 9mm aren't too hot to be unmanageable while the same versions in .40 and .45 are not maneagable. Who knows...the FBI has always made some really bizarre gun choices. Regardless, I'll stick with the .45acp as my preferred defense caliber, there's no question with it. Or...maybe they are changing the caliber so they can get all of the militarys potentially soon to be defunct 9mm M9's...they get all the handguns they want and they make sure they never end up in the hands of those evil civilians. [/QUOTE]
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