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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2272157" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>A good rule of thumb is to ignore NutNFancy and look for someone else's review (or 5 different reviews in the time it takes NutN to get his 45min review in) <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>$200 for the entry-level Edge Apex and it's nowhere near the Wicked Edge (only natural stones, and only 220 / 400 / and 1200-hone for that price) - and in your harder steels, going from 400 to 1200grit is an uber-pain to get those mirror-edges everyone likes to brag about. You can add sandpaper in various grits, but it takes a long time to get good results. </p><p></p><p>The EPA is a Pain to setup - once you get it setup, you can go forever and get a nice edge out of it, but it's expensive enough, slow enough, and enough of a pain to setup that it falls behind in all of all of the value-factors for me (it it's going to be slow and a pain to setup, it better be cheap - if it's expensive, it better be quick or easy to setup, etc.). I'd get a Lansky or Smith and add diamond stones and just save the money over the EPA.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can chuck in a virgin blade in the Wicked edge in under a minute, setup the stone-angles in another minute or two, and completely re-profile a blade to any angle I want in another 10mins (thats the max time for just really PITA hard steels) and get a nice mirror-finish on that edge in another 3-5mins.</p><p></p><p>If I were going to spend anywhere near $200 on a kit, I'd look at the Wicked Edge Field/Stream or Basic version at $275 and add any stones to it when I could later on. A 600grit Diamond-stone finish is more than most folks even care about though the occasional mirror-finish edge is nice to look at (and if you want to stay cheap, you can do the sand-paper trick on the W/E kit and get a very nice mirror edge by stepping up from 600 grit (in only a few minutes on each grit).</p><p></p><p>Once you get the system down and all your blades re-profiled to where you want them - you can even put leather-scraps from a belt over the existing stones and get some strop-paste for that uber-nice stropped edge (you can almost always strop back a dull edge to uber-sharp again with like, 15 strokes).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2272157, member: 229"] A good rule of thumb is to ignore NutNFancy and look for someone else's review (or 5 different reviews in the time it takes NutN to get his 45min review in) :) $200 for the entry-level Edge Apex and it's nowhere near the Wicked Edge (only natural stones, and only 220 / 400 / and 1200-hone for that price) - and in your harder steels, going from 400 to 1200grit is an uber-pain to get those mirror-edges everyone likes to brag about. You can add sandpaper in various grits, but it takes a long time to get good results. The EPA is a Pain to setup - once you get it setup, you can go forever and get a nice edge out of it, but it's expensive enough, slow enough, and enough of a pain to setup that it falls behind in all of all of the value-factors for me (it it's going to be slow and a pain to setup, it better be cheap - if it's expensive, it better be quick or easy to setup, etc.). I'd get a Lansky or Smith and add diamond stones and just save the money over the EPA. I can chuck in a virgin blade in the Wicked edge in under a minute, setup the stone-angles in another minute or two, and completely re-profile a blade to any angle I want in another 10mins (thats the max time for just really PITA hard steels) and get a nice mirror-finish on that edge in another 3-5mins. If I were going to spend anywhere near $200 on a kit, I'd look at the Wicked Edge Field/Stream or Basic version at $275 and add any stones to it when I could later on. A 600grit Diamond-stone finish is more than most folks even care about though the occasional mirror-finish edge is nice to look at (and if you want to stay cheap, you can do the sand-paper trick on the W/E kit and get a very nice mirror edge by stepping up from 600 grit (in only a few minutes on each grit). Once you get the system down and all your blades re-profiled to where you want them - you can even put leather-scraps from a belt over the existing stones and get some strop-paste for that uber-nice stropped edge (you can almost always strop back a dull edge to uber-sharp again with like, 15 strokes). [/QUOTE]
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