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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2415059" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>Uh oh...</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.howesknifeshop.com/spyderco/spyderco-paramilitary-2-limited-edition-sprint-c81cfpe2/" target="_blank">http://www.howesknifeshop.com/spyderco/spyderco-paramilitary-2-limited-edition-sprint-c81cfpe2/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No mention of scale-material/color yet (based on the model-number, I'm guessing it's going to be Carbon Fiber) but this looks to be the first commercial laminate steel made in the US from all US steel components (all Crucible too - Carpenter and I assume Bohler will surely follow suite). We get an all US-made product with the edge-retention of S90v and the toughness of CPM154.</p><p></p><p>Ed Schempp (the knife maker) has a lot of good things to say about this - most noteworthy is that the 440/420 and ZDP-189 laminates appear to show scratches too easily due to the softness of the outer 420/440 clad layer and the ZDP-189 core will occasionally rust (as it is a high-carbon steel). This won't be a problem with the CPM154/S90v laminate (which CPM154 is actually a superior blade steel to many others all on its own) as CPM154 is tougher (against tearing/cracking) than 420 J2, more abrasion-resistant than 440c, and S90V is both 3 categories above ZDP-189 in edge-retention / abrasion-resistance and a top-notch stainless steel.</p><p></p><p>To put it simply, CPM154 (the clad in this new US-made super-laminate) is essentially already as tough as ZDP-189 (the core in the previously most famous laminate), and the S90V inner core of this US-laminate is basically the ultimate core you could have - it's well better at edge-retention than ZDP-189 (and ZDP-189 is a great blade-steel for edge-retention).</p><p></p><p>I can't wait to see if Carpenter or Bohler Uddeholm answers with their own super-laminates - this might bring the price down some. That honestly appears to be the only drawback: because of the difficulty of placement of the core, smaller billets will be hipped, raising the price of the material overall. </p><p></p><p>Man, these are exciting times in the world of super-steels and laminates. Hell, it wasn't that long ago when powdered steels were considered to mostly be inferior (MiM) and now we've got powdered/misted super-steels that are doing things never before done.</p><p></p><p>Ed Schempp mentioned that we are not that far from a commercially available US-made Damascus steel (how awesome would that be?).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2415059, member: 229"] Uh oh... [url]http://www.howesknifeshop.com/spyderco/spyderco-paramilitary-2-limited-edition-sprint-c81cfpe2/[/url] No mention of scale-material/color yet (based on the model-number, I'm guessing it's going to be Carbon Fiber) but this looks to be the first commercial laminate steel made in the US from all US steel components (all Crucible too - Carpenter and I assume Bohler will surely follow suite). We get an all US-made product with the edge-retention of S90v and the toughness of CPM154. Ed Schempp (the knife maker) has a lot of good things to say about this - most noteworthy is that the 440/420 and ZDP-189 laminates appear to show scratches too easily due to the softness of the outer 420/440 clad layer and the ZDP-189 core will occasionally rust (as it is a high-carbon steel). This won't be a problem with the CPM154/S90v laminate (which CPM154 is actually a superior blade steel to many others all on its own) as CPM154 is tougher (against tearing/cracking) than 420 J2, more abrasion-resistant than 440c, and S90V is both 3 categories above ZDP-189 in edge-retention / abrasion-resistance and a top-notch stainless steel. To put it simply, CPM154 (the clad in this new US-made super-laminate) is essentially already as tough as ZDP-189 (the core in the previously most famous laminate), and the S90V inner core of this US-laminate is basically the ultimate core you could have - it's well better at edge-retention than ZDP-189 (and ZDP-189 is a great blade-steel for edge-retention). I can't wait to see if Carpenter or Bohler Uddeholm answers with their own super-laminates - this might bring the price down some. That honestly appears to be the only drawback: because of the difficulty of placement of the core, smaller billets will be hipped, raising the price of the material overall. Man, these are exciting times in the world of super-steels and laminates. Hell, it wasn't that long ago when powdered steels were considered to mostly be inferior (MiM) and now we've got powdered/misted super-steels that are doing things never before done. Ed Schempp mentioned that we are not that far from a commercially available US-made Damascus steel (how awesome would that be?). [/QUOTE]
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