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Ok ok, you got caught with your pants down and need some primers for a up coming hunt or to have for your protection, go buy a sleeve of 100, but dont buy every brick in sight!
9 out of 10 neckbeards would strongly disagree! :rollingla

Starting to see a good trend. Academy in Owasso today:
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At least prices aren't going the other way....yet.
 

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I totally agree with OJEEZE. in reality, when have any of you seen the price of something that went up for whatever reason ( like feed from the drought) go back down to what it was before, as long as people were still buying it??? The ONLY way to stop not only big business, but government as well it to stand together as one. Imagine Shell Oil with no sales across the board for just 1 day. Think you might get their attention?
 

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Maybe cheaper foreign suppliers will help bring the cost down. I bought 10k Unis Ginex or whatever primers for about $60/1000. That should keep me out of the market for small rifle for a while.
Sounds logical, but unless you are buying direct, those primers are sold by the distributor as the domestic, well known, popular, high demand brands. Therefore, the "cheap imports" end up just slightly cheaper.

I am in short supply on LPP. Have stumbled on a few, but refused to pay the over inflated price. I may be forced to pick up a few, but not a case.

.22 LR was headed back to normal, but **** Joe inflation halted that.
The new normal will prevent prices going back to what they were, but restraint would bring them down and stick it to the neckbeards.
 

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Slow primer production!



Faster primer production



That Bruderer press above is running slow at 350 strokes a minute, but the complexity of the die might facilitate that speed. I would love the chance to see that die up close!

This is where we need primer component stamping needs to be! 2300 strokes per minute! 😁

 
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I am in short supply on LPP. Have stumbled on a few, but refused to pay the over inflated price. I may be forced to pick up a few, but not a case.
LPP"s are in short supply now for some reason.

I like to keep all my primer types up to a certain stock level and as I use a brick (1000) of a particular type I order another to replace it.

I've got a brick of U.S. made LPP showing that it's going to be delivered today and the price I ended up paying for them after tax, shipping and Hazmat was up there.....not really much a fella can do, we either pay the price or walk away and do without.

Edit: Dam it !.........Should have waited a little longer, Academy had Winch. LPP's on the shelf this morning for about what I paid per 1000 but I had to pay the additional shipping and Hazmat cost.
 
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That got your attention I bet!

Free powder too!!!

So..... With all the craziness going on lets look at this!

Before Christmas a local shop had Blazer Brass 115fmj or 124fmj for $11.99 a box of 50.

Thats $0.2398 per round including packaging!

Now a quick trip to starline brass has 9mm brass for $165 / 1000 or $.165ea.

So .2398-.165= .0748

Now a quick trip to montana gold for 115gn fmj are $350 / 4000 or $87.50 / 1000 or $.0875ea

So $.0748-.0875 is $−.0127
You would need a $.0127ea more of a discount on the brass or bullets to break even with the Blazer Brass, plus they come loaded already free labor.

So in review you can not buy the brass and bullets for the cost of 9mm blazer brass by CCI.

Just a little fyi for all those suckers that think 7 to 10 cent primers are the new normal.

As you can see a profit was made by cci (blazer brass), a distributer, the local dealer, plus a trucking company or two at that price!

7-10 primers is only because someone keeps scarfing them up at those crazy prices.

I'd be willing to bet cci makes a primer for less than 1 penny after all the bills are paid!

Folks stop buying primers until the price drops back to a realistic $30 / 1000
Yep! I stocked up on Primers being patient during the Obama ammo plague and got all of mine for $28-30. I had several from back when they were $10/1000. Powder prices are killing me right now!
 

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I'm still using some components that I bought back in the 80s and 90s. Still shooting some ammo that I built in the 70s. It's always amazed me how long these things stay good, ir you properly store them. Plus still have several thousand 9mm and 40 S&W once fired cases that I have been selling for $60 per K for several years. And enough loaded ammo to last me another 2 lifetimes. I think I'll be good to go for the rest of this one.
 
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That got your attention I bet!

Free powder too!!!

So..... With all the craziness going on lets look at this!

Before Christmas a local shop had Blazer Brass 115fmj or 124fmj for $11.99 a box of 50.



Thats $0.2398 per round including packaging!

Now a quick trip to starline brass has 9mm brass for $165 / 1000 or $.165ea.

So .2398-.165= .0748

Now a quick trip to montana gold for 115gn fmj are $350 / 4000 or $87.50 / 1000 or $.0875ea

So $.0748-.0875 is $−.0127
You would need a $.0127ea more of a discount on the brass or bullets to break even with the Blazer Brass, plus they come loaded already free labor.

So in review you can not buy the brass and bullets for the cost of 9mm blazer brass by CCI.

Just a little fyi for all those suckers that think 7 to 10 cent primers are the new normal.

As you can see a profit was made by cci (blazer brass), a distributer, the local dealer, plus a trucking company or two at that price!

7-10 primers is only because someone keeps scarfing them up at those crazy prices.

I'd be willing to bet cci makes a primer for less than 1 penny after all the bills are paid!

Folks stop buying primers until the price drops back to a realistic $30 / 1000

I agree with your argument, to a point. Buying new brass that won’t be reloaded and fun bullets, one can’t beat the price of loaded ammo. Primers and powder are historically high. However, I’ve never known a serious reloader that wasn’t a tinkerer and a packrat, so this isn’t really a correct assessment.

As mentioned before, 9mm brass can be picked up for free, or purchased as once fired for significantly less money. Even buying new brass, one needs to account for the fact that it can be reloaded multiple times. Played bullets are much more economical for use as plinking ammo. If one really wants to go down the rabbit hole, cast lead bullets are even cheaper, or nearly free if one wants to cast their own. My Unique recipe is, I think, 5 grains per round. At 7000 grains per pound, that’s 1400 rounds per pound. At, say, 50 a pound for powder, that’s around 4 cents a round for powder. I’m still shooting primers I bought in the early 00’s for less than 2 cents each. I may well stop loading 9mm if I have to pay 100 a brick for them.

So, my price estimate is as follows:
Brass - 0.02
Powder - 0.04 (actually less, packrat, remember?)
Primer - 0.02
Bullet- 0.02 (again, probably less for home cast)

Total - 0.10 per round. I think my actual cost is closer 0.06 per round, but I’m being conservative.
 

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