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<blockquote data-quote="zghorner" data-source="post: 2789668" data-attributes="member: 35089"><p>I am no Christian so I hope you don't mind my reply. You are asking straight forward simple questions...that aren't so simple to answer. They are unanswerable from the unfortunate 99.9% of Christians that couldn't care less about metaphysics and theology but blindly follow brother bill's (or whoever) interpretation of an already edited and translated interpretation. I am again just posting some quotes that are relative to your questions and have helped satisfy my desire for answers. I also have a few questions for you, Do you believe in the existence of spirit? That man is a combination of body (material existence), mind (mental existence), and soul (spiritual existence)? </p><p></p><p>"The Hermetists believe and teach that THE ALL, "in itself," is and must ever be UNKNOWABLE. They regard all the theories, guesses and speculations of the theologians and metaphysicians regarding the inner nature of THE ALL, as but the childish efforts of mortal minds to grasp the secret of the Infinite. Such efforts have always failed and will always fail, from the very nature of the task. One pursuing such inquiries travels around and around in the labyrinth of thought, until he is lost to all sane reasoning, action or conduct, and is utterly unfitted for the work of life. He is like the squirrel which frantically runs around and around the circling treadmill wheel of his cage, traveling ever and yet reaching nowhere--at the end a prisoner still, and standing just where he started.</p><p></p><p>THE ALL must be INFINITE, for there is nothing else</p><p> to define, confine, bound, limit; or restrict THE ALL.</p><p> It must be Infinite in Time, or ETERNAL,--it must have</p><p> always continuously existed, for there is nothing else to</p><p> have ever created it, and something can never evolve from</p><p> nothing, and if it had ever "not been," even for a moment,</p><p> it would not "be" now,--it must continuously exist forever,</p><p> for there is nothing to destroy it, and it can never</p><p> "not-be," even for a moment, because something can never</p><p> become nothing. It must be Infinite in Space--it must be</p><p> Everywhere, for there is no place outside of THE ALL--it</p><p> cannot be otherwise than continuous in Space, without break,</p><p> cessation, separation, or interruption, for there is nothing</p><p> to break, separate, or interrupt its continuity, and nothing</p><p> with which to "fill in the gaps." It must be Infinite in</p><p> Power, or Absolute, for there is nothing to limit, restrict,</p><p> restrain, confine, disturb or condition it--it is subject to</p><p> no other Power, for there is no other Power.</p><p></p><p>THE ALL is SPIRIT! But what is Spirit? This question cannot be answered, for the reason that its definition is practically that of THE ALL, which cannot be explained or defined. Spirit is simply a name that men give to the highest conception of Infinite Living Mind--it means "the Real Essence"--it means Living Mind, as much superior to Life and Mind as we know them, as the latter are superior to mechanical Energy and Matter. Spirit transcends our understanding, and we use the term merely that we may think or speak of THE ALL. For the purposes of thought and understanding, we are justified in thinking of Spirit as Infinite Living Mind, at the same time acknowledging that we cannot fully understand it. We must either do this or stop thinking of the matter at all."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zghorner, post: 2789668, member: 35089"] I am no Christian so I hope you don't mind my reply. You are asking straight forward simple questions...that aren't so simple to answer. They are unanswerable from the unfortunate 99.9% of Christians that couldn't care less about metaphysics and theology but blindly follow brother bill's (or whoever) interpretation of an already edited and translated interpretation. I am again just posting some quotes that are relative to your questions and have helped satisfy my desire for answers. I also have a few questions for you, Do you believe in the existence of spirit? That man is a combination of body (material existence), mind (mental existence), and soul (spiritual existence)? "The Hermetists believe and teach that THE ALL, "in itself," is and must ever be UNKNOWABLE. They regard all the theories, guesses and speculations of the theologians and metaphysicians regarding the inner nature of THE ALL, as but the childish efforts of mortal minds to grasp the secret of the Infinite. Such efforts have always failed and will always fail, from the very nature of the task. One pursuing such inquiries travels around and around in the labyrinth of thought, until he is lost to all sane reasoning, action or conduct, and is utterly unfitted for the work of life. He is like the squirrel which frantically runs around and around the circling treadmill wheel of his cage, traveling ever and yet reaching nowhere--at the end a prisoner still, and standing just where he started. THE ALL must be INFINITE, for there is nothing else to define, confine, bound, limit; or restrict THE ALL. It must be Infinite in Time, or ETERNAL,--it must have always continuously existed, for there is nothing else to have ever created it, and something can never evolve from nothing, and if it had ever "not been," even for a moment, it would not "be" now,--it must continuously exist forever, for there is nothing to destroy it, and it can never "not-be," even for a moment, because something can never become nothing. It must be Infinite in Space--it must be Everywhere, for there is no place outside of THE ALL--it cannot be otherwise than continuous in Space, without break, cessation, separation, or interruption, for there is nothing to break, separate, or interrupt its continuity, and nothing with which to "fill in the gaps." It must be Infinite in Power, or Absolute, for there is nothing to limit, restrict, restrain, confine, disturb or condition it--it is subject to no other Power, for there is no other Power. THE ALL is SPIRIT! But what is Spirit? This question cannot be answered, for the reason that its definition is practically that of THE ALL, which cannot be explained or defined. Spirit is simply a name that men give to the highest conception of Infinite Living Mind--it means "the Real Essence"--it means Living Mind, as much superior to Life and Mind as we know them, as the latter are superior to mechanical Energy and Matter. Spirit transcends our understanding, and we use the term merely that we may think or speak of THE ALL. For the purposes of thought and understanding, we are justified in thinking of Spirit as Infinite Living Mind, at the same time acknowledging that we cannot fully understand it. We must either do this or stop thinking of the matter at all." [/QUOTE]
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