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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 1779316" data-attributes="member: 1132">Do you have any numbers to disprove it? I can give you three examples of assaults where guns were known to be carried by the victims. One was Platt & Maddox, who specifically attacked target shooters so they could steal their guns and vehicles. Another was the recent attack on Kenneth Payne at the Ft. Gibson WMA range to steal his guns. There was also the incident where Lamar Moore entered a Detroit police station and opened fire in 2011.In contrast, there are dozens of high profile shootings in "gun free" zones. All you really have to do is google "shootings in gun free zones". It's not rocket science to figure out that criminals and sociopaths target the weak and unarmed disproportionately. It's a given that you should stipulate to if you want to have an intelligent debate on the subject.</blockquote>