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<blockquote data-quote="David2012" data-source="post: 1759522" data-attributes="member: 24428">Can the new language still be taken out by the Senate, before the final vote?In my opinion, with the new Senate language inserted... &#039;open carry&#039; is D.O.A.. stick a fork in it, it is done! As hard as it was to get enough people on board [given the number of legislators who give so much weight to the crying &amp; moaning of left leaning LEO&#039;s and anti-gun people] permitless &#039;open carry&#039; will never pass with only needing a training cetificate from the NRA or CLEET. A NRA or C.L.E.E.T. Certificate is just that a &#039;certificate of training&#039;.... not a permit,Most legislators want the background checks and the strict regulations required for concealed carry to apply to open carry too.Also, most members the legislature wants the revenue coming in from SDA pemit sales!If Russel was really pro-gun and had a lick of common sense, he would have gone for a virtual sure thing with the open carry by permit.. then when it proved itself in a few years... introduced a bill to make it permitless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="David2012, post: 1759522, member: 24428"] Can the new language still be taken out by the Senate, before the final vote? In my opinion, with the new Senate language inserted... 'open carry' is D.O.A.. stick a fork in it, it is done! As hard as it was to get enough people on board [given the number of legislators who give so much weight to the crying & moaning of left leaning LEO's and anti-gun people] permitless 'open carry' will never pass with only needing a training cetificate from the NRA or CLEET. A NRA or C.L.E.E.T. Certificate is just that a 'certificate of training'.... not a permit, Most legislators want the background checks and the strict regulations required for concealed carry to apply to open carry too. Also, most members the legislature wants the revenue coming in from SDA pemit sales! If Russel was really pro-gun and had a lick of common sense, he would have gone for a virtual sure thing with the open carry by permit.. then when it proved itself in a few years... introduced a bill to make it permitless. [/QUOTE]

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