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<blockquote data-quote="p238shooter" data-source="post: 1760047" data-attributes="member: 24583"><p>I do not understand the comment "Decouple the law." Carrying a gun is carrying a gun, making a decision to shoot is making a decision to shoot, concealed or open is not a factor. I want to CC carry or let it show with out possible harassment. Either way, you make its shooting decisions, whether it is visible to others or not is a moot point, you are responsible and in charge of the trigger. As far as fees, when have politicians ever been concerned about any user fees for anything? Is boasting trying to reduce the fee worth trashing this bill? The fee can be reduced next year. What a crock of reasons to sabotage this bill. </p><p></p><p>I guess I am not smart enough to be a politician, but as I see it, HB2522 was only 2 steps away being law, a vote of the full Senate floor (Which was most likely a shoe in,) and a signature by our Governor who ran on a platform that if a bill like this was presented on her desk, she would sign it. It should have been a done deal. We could work on other parts or fees next year.</p><p></p><p>Now with this "we cant pass this without an amendment attitude", the process literally starts over again at zero. With all the time that was taken up with our legislature deciding whether a liquor store may legally sell cork screws to go with the wine they sell or not, there is precious little time left. Soon these dedicated Officials of the Oklahoma Legislature will need to take a much needed vacation to collect their thoughts for the upcoming elections and stressful decisions they will have to make next year to protect us all from voting against them.</p><p></p><p>As I see it this bill would have provided us with many wanted/needed changes. Not all we wanted/needed, but much better than we have had to live with. Now we are betting it all with an amendment and rolling the dice, most likely getting nothing but "sorry, too late this year, elect me again and I will try again next year."</p><p></p><p>Do you really think he is not smart enough to see what this amendment would do to destroy the passage of this bill? He along with everyone else that did not stand up in protest just lost my future vote. A new batch of people might not be any better, but at least will understand that we are here and we have a vote, BS us and you are out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="p238shooter, post: 1760047, member: 24583"] I do not understand the comment "Decouple the law." Carrying a gun is carrying a gun, making a decision to shoot is making a decision to shoot, concealed or open is not a factor. I want to CC carry or let it show with out possible harassment. Either way, you make its shooting decisions, whether it is visible to others or not is a moot point, you are responsible and in charge of the trigger. As far as fees, when have politicians ever been concerned about any user fees for anything? Is boasting trying to reduce the fee worth trashing this bill? The fee can be reduced next year. What a crock of reasons to sabotage this bill. I guess I am not smart enough to be a politician, but as I see it, HB2522 was only 2 steps away being law, a vote of the full Senate floor (Which was most likely a shoe in,) and a signature by our Governor who ran on a platform that if a bill like this was presented on her desk, she would sign it. It should have been a done deal. We could work on other parts or fees next year. Now with this "we cant pass this without an amendment attitude", the process literally starts over again at zero. With all the time that was taken up with our legislature deciding whether a liquor store may legally sell cork screws to go with the wine they sell or not, there is precious little time left. Soon these dedicated Officials of the Oklahoma Legislature will need to take a much needed vacation to collect their thoughts for the upcoming elections and stressful decisions they will have to make next year to protect us all from voting against them. As I see it this bill would have provided us with many wanted/needed changes. Not all we wanted/needed, but much better than we have had to live with. Now we are betting it all with an amendment and rolling the dice, most likely getting nothing but "sorry, too late this year, elect me again and I will try again next year." Do you really think he is not smart enough to see what this amendment would do to destroy the passage of this bill? He along with everyone else that did not stand up in protest just lost my future vote. A new batch of people might not be any better, but at least will understand that we are here and we have a vote, BS us and you are out. [/QUOTE]
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