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<blockquote data-quote="aviator41" data-source="post: 2741121" data-attributes="member: 30309"><p>A carbine does not have a 2-3" circle of potential impact. at best, a carbine shooting a 45 caliber projectile has a .452 inch circle of impact that must contact the assailant. that's less than half an inch, but lets round. Lets say that round magically expands to .5 inches. That give you roughly a 16% chance of the hitting the assailant vs. shotgun at 15 meters (which is actually 5" diameter, not 2-3"). a 223 round has a circle of impact of .224, or about half that of a 45. now you're down to roughly 8% </p><p></p><p>at 15 meters 00 buckshot typically has a shot pattern of roughly 5X5 with a cylinder choke. That circle expands with bird shot at the same range. but I used your 2"-3" circle for comparison.</p><p></p><p>So why advocate shooting a shotgun different than a carbine? because you DO shot a shotgun differently that a carbine ( or other rifle for that matter). you AIM a carbine/rifle/bb gun/pistol, you POINT a shotgun. It's probably why a shotgun has different sighting systems that a rifle. . . strange how that works. And yes, I know there are rifled shotguns/projectiles - we're not talking about those, we're talking about SHOT </p><p></p><p>So do you want to try to hit that guy coming in the window with a projectile roughly as wide as a pencil, or a projectile CLOUD roughly the size of a book. . . you can keep your carbine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aviator41, post: 2741121, member: 30309"] A carbine does not have a 2-3" circle of potential impact. at best, a carbine shooting a 45 caliber projectile has a .452 inch circle of impact that must contact the assailant. that's less than half an inch, but lets round. Lets say that round magically expands to .5 inches. That give you roughly a 16% chance of the hitting the assailant vs. shotgun at 15 meters (which is actually 5" diameter, not 2-3"). a 223 round has a circle of impact of .224, or about half that of a 45. now you're down to roughly 8% at 15 meters 00 buckshot typically has a shot pattern of roughly 5X5 with a cylinder choke. That circle expands with bird shot at the same range. but I used your 2"-3" circle for comparison. So why advocate shooting a shotgun different than a carbine? because you DO shot a shotgun differently that a carbine ( or other rifle for that matter). you AIM a carbine/rifle/bb gun/pistol, you POINT a shotgun. It's probably why a shotgun has different sighting systems that a rifle. . . strange how that works. And yes, I know there are rifled shotguns/projectiles - we're not talking about those, we're talking about SHOT So do you want to try to hit that guy coming in the window with a projectile roughly as wide as a pencil, or a projectile CLOUD roughly the size of a book. . . you can keep your carbine. [/QUOTE]
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