Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
Latest activity
Classifieds
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Log in
Register
What's New?
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More Options
Advertise with us
Contact Us
Close Menu
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
How would we petition to get the knife-laws changed in OK?
Search titles only
By:
Reply to Thread
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="vvvvvvv" data-source="post: 2006146" data-attributes="member: 5151"><p>Actually, with the unconstitutional rules of the House of Representatives, you're not too late. And you're also not too late in the Senate. In the Senate, a bill can be constitutionally rewritten completely in committee. In the House, a bill can be unconstitutionally rewritten completely in committee. In both chambers, a bill can be rewritten completely on the Floor, as well as through a joint-committee that gets established to reconcile two conflicting versions of a passed bill.</p><p></p><p>You will NEED both a Representative and a Senator to sign on as authors. Neither chamber can accept a bill from the other without an author from their own chamber.</p><p></p><p>It would be good for everyone to contact their local Representative and Senator and get a commitment from them to sign on as an author. If you want to hold their feet to the fire, publish the email where they said they would sign on as an author to a bill amending Oklahoma's knife laws with the specific amendments that you are wanting.</p><p></p><p>Constituents in the districts represented by the Speaker and Senate Pro Tem have an even stronger duty to lobby their legislators. Next would be those whose legislators are Floor Leaders, Assistant Floor Leaders, and other named positions just as Majority Whip, as well as caucus leaders. Let them know that their re-election has a strong possibility of riding on their support (or lack thereof) of your bill.</p><p></p><p>And you will need to keep it in the front of each legislators mind on an ongoing basis, but not to the point where they feel harassed. Politicians have very delicate feelings and can be fragile.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't even need to get into the media campaigns. The cost for an initiative petition runs $600-$700K+/- just to get it on the ballot. Then you'll need a few million dollars more for the campaign. It's simply not feasible unless you're a national public employees union whose Oklahoma lobbyists and campaign directors weren't even registered to vote in Oklahoma.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I could probably do a draft in the format the legislature wants (minus line numbers) if given the roadmap to ALL of Oklahoma's knife laws. Remember, guns aren't only addressed in 21 OS §§ 1272, 1289, and 1290. They are also addressed in many other places in Title 21 as well as Title 19, Title 63, Title 70, Title 74, and Title 76 (off the top of my head). However, I couldn't guarantee it to be ready in time for the legal staff in each chamber to actually write it.</p><p></p><p>Of course, it'd come from a libertarian's point of view on what they should be...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vvvvvvv, post: 2006146, member: 5151"] Actually, with the unconstitutional rules of the House of Representatives, you're not too late. And you're also not too late in the Senate. In the Senate, a bill can be constitutionally rewritten completely in committee. In the House, a bill can be unconstitutionally rewritten completely in committee. In both chambers, a bill can be rewritten completely on the Floor, as well as through a joint-committee that gets established to reconcile two conflicting versions of a passed bill. You will NEED both a Representative and a Senator to sign on as authors. Neither chamber can accept a bill from the other without an author from their own chamber. It would be good for everyone to contact their local Representative and Senator and get a commitment from them to sign on as an author. If you want to hold their feet to the fire, publish the email where they said they would sign on as an author to a bill amending Oklahoma's knife laws with the specific amendments that you are wanting. Constituents in the districts represented by the Speaker and Senate Pro Tem have an even stronger duty to lobby their legislators. Next would be those whose legislators are Floor Leaders, Assistant Floor Leaders, and other named positions just as Majority Whip, as well as caucus leaders. Let them know that their re-election has a strong possibility of riding on their support (or lack thereof) of your bill. And you will need to keep it in the front of each legislators mind on an ongoing basis, but not to the point where they feel harassed. Politicians have very delicate feelings and can be fragile. You don't even need to get into the media campaigns. The cost for an initiative petition runs $600-$700K+/- just to get it on the ballot. Then you'll need a few million dollars more for the campaign. It's simply not feasible unless you're a national public employees union whose Oklahoma lobbyists and campaign directors weren't even registered to vote in Oklahoma. I could probably do a draft in the format the legislature wants (minus line numbers) if given the roadmap to ALL of Oklahoma's knife laws. Remember, guns aren't only addressed in 21 OS §§ 1272, 1289, and 1290. They are also addressed in many other places in Title 21 as well as Title 19, Title 63, Title 70, Title 74, and Title 76 (off the top of my head). However, I couldn't guarantee it to be ready in time for the legal staff in each chamber to actually write it. Of course, it'd come from a libertarian's point of view on what they should be... [/QUOTE]
Insert Quotes…
Verification
Post Reply
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
How would we petition to get the knife-laws changed in OK?
Search titles only
By:
Top
Bottom