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<blockquote data-quote="OldGringo" data-source="post: 3022288" data-attributes="member: 33273"><p>ditto on the 257 Weatherby, not legal for elk on Ft Sill, I don't think. Ft Sill only has 4 or 5 areas open to rifle hunting and the odds of drawing any elk gun tag are about 20% per year, but then the odds of drawing a rifle area are only about 10%. So, your 308 will be fine if you get that lucky. And the elk on Ft Sill are much smaller that out west. The biggest bull I saw last year was about 550 dressed, most are smaller. I have been hunting Ft Sill about 20 years as retired military. Success on big deer or elk are very poor, but it is a cheap place for military guys and retirees to hunt. And remember people come from all over the nation for the elk opportunity and there are lots of very good hunters at Ft Sill, so very few good deer survive, like the record archery deer last year. I hunted 5 days and 5 areas and the biggest deer I saw was a 100 lb 7 point that I shot the last day of BP season. Little guy or nothing. Now as to a new rifle, cannot have too many, just impossible. I have killed 100+ whitetail, muleys, antelope and 2 elk. Most have been with a 30-06 model 70 Winchester or Remington 7400. Killed another 7 point with the model 7400, 30-06 carbine at Ft Sill, at 460 yards. I have also killed a Boone and Crocket muley in Colorado with a 243, so really caliber does not matter much, shooting skill is the key. I have also killed antelope at 429 yards with a 243, so my opinion is caliber does not matter much. My personal choice now is the 257 Weatherby Vanguard, only killed 3 deer with it, a 10 pt muley at 403, a 9 pt muley at 196, and an 8 pt whitetail at about 150, did not measure that one. And remember you can form 257 Weatherby cases from 7mm mag and load them as cheap as any other caliber. That's my 2 cents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OldGringo, post: 3022288, member: 33273"] ditto on the 257 Weatherby, not legal for elk on Ft Sill, I don't think. Ft Sill only has 4 or 5 areas open to rifle hunting and the odds of drawing any elk gun tag are about 20% per year, but then the odds of drawing a rifle area are only about 10%. So, your 308 will be fine if you get that lucky. And the elk on Ft Sill are much smaller that out west. The biggest bull I saw last year was about 550 dressed, most are smaller. I have been hunting Ft Sill about 20 years as retired military. Success on big deer or elk are very poor, but it is a cheap place for military guys and retirees to hunt. And remember people come from all over the nation for the elk opportunity and there are lots of very good hunters at Ft Sill, so very few good deer survive, like the record archery deer last year. I hunted 5 days and 5 areas and the biggest deer I saw was a 100 lb 7 point that I shot the last day of BP season. Little guy or nothing. Now as to a new rifle, cannot have too many, just impossible. I have killed 100+ whitetail, muleys, antelope and 2 elk. Most have been with a 30-06 model 70 Winchester or Remington 7400. Killed another 7 point with the model 7400, 30-06 carbine at Ft Sill, at 460 yards. I have also killed a Boone and Crocket muley in Colorado with a 243, so really caliber does not matter much, shooting skill is the key. I have also killed antelope at 429 yards with a 243, so my opinion is caliber does not matter much. My personal choice now is the 257 Weatherby Vanguard, only killed 3 deer with it, a 10 pt muley at 403, a 9 pt muley at 196, and an 8 pt whitetail at about 150, did not measure that one. And remember you can form 257 Weatherby cases from 7mm mag and load them as cheap as any other caliber. That's my 2 cents. [/QUOTE]
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