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<blockquote data-quote="ExSniper" data-source="post: 1482684" data-attributes="member: 1387"><p>He did not check and find out everyone was good. He checked and found out everyone was from the neighborhood and perhaps he even checked and verified there were no outstanding warrants for the arrest of these three guys. A quick look at an ID and a call to dispatch does not give the LEO a guarantee that the people are who they say they are or what is their criminal record/intent.</p><p>All he knows driving up is that possible criminal activity has been reported at this address. Three guys with guns will quickly be looking down the barrel of one of my long guns I carry in the patrol car. How we proceeed next depends on how they respond and how much back-up I have, nothing else will happen until I have some back-up on scene, so just expect to keep looking down the barrel of my AR. </p><p>Running the serial numbers is a minute or two on a radio and computer, not a huge waste of time or resources and may uncover that the 3 guys are not who and what they pretend to be. </p><p>Just because someone has ID, an SDA permit, and lives in the neighborhood does not make them automatically a good guy. What if these three guys are a jilted, abusive ex-husband who is under a protective order to stay away from his ex-wife and his two best buds/neighbors who think she done him wrong? They would have ID and a reasonable sounding story but still be participating in criminal conduct. Too many variables.</p><p>Does not matter who you are or what training you have had in the past, the officer does not know that when he/she arrives on scene and for their own safety they better keep a close eye on everyone and proceed with caution based on their skill and training.</p><p></p><p>As to the other situation of letting a neighbor back you up as you check all around a house, that is a big NO GO! For all the same reasons! We do not know who you are or what are your intentions. Much safer for me, you, and everyone else not to get you involved. Don't be offended, there are LEOs I know that I won't let back me up either. We will wait till more and better help arrives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExSniper, post: 1482684, member: 1387"] He did not check and find out everyone was good. He checked and found out everyone was from the neighborhood and perhaps he even checked and verified there were no outstanding warrants for the arrest of these three guys. A quick look at an ID and a call to dispatch does not give the LEO a guarantee that the people are who they say they are or what is their criminal record/intent. All he knows driving up is that possible criminal activity has been reported at this address. Three guys with guns will quickly be looking down the barrel of one of my long guns I carry in the patrol car. How we proceeed next depends on how they respond and how much back-up I have, nothing else will happen until I have some back-up on scene, so just expect to keep looking down the barrel of my AR. Running the serial numbers is a minute or two on a radio and computer, not a huge waste of time or resources and may uncover that the 3 guys are not who and what they pretend to be. Just because someone has ID, an SDA permit, and lives in the neighborhood does not make them automatically a good guy. What if these three guys are a jilted, abusive ex-husband who is under a protective order to stay away from his ex-wife and his two best buds/neighbors who think she done him wrong? They would have ID and a reasonable sounding story but still be participating in criminal conduct. Too many variables. Does not matter who you are or what training you have had in the past, the officer does not know that when he/she arrives on scene and for their own safety they better keep a close eye on everyone and proceed with caution based on their skill and training. As to the other situation of letting a neighbor back you up as you check all around a house, that is a big NO GO! For all the same reasons! We do not know who you are or what are your intentions. Much safer for me, you, and everyone else not to get you involved. Don't be offended, there are LEOs I know that I won't let back me up either. We will wait till more and better help arrives. [/QUOTE]
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