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I feel sorry for my son... gone are the "good old days". :(
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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1570018" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>I was referring to national crime rates earlier. We can do Oklahoma too.</p><p> </p><p>Using the table you provided for Oklahoma crime data, if you notice the murder and manslaughter rates remain relatively constant from 1960-2009 spiking a few years in the 80's an 90's (as noted, the 1995 spike was the Murrah Building Bombing). In fact the Oklahoma murder rate was higher in 1960 than it was in entire decade preceding 2009. </p><p></p><p>Your "violent crime rate" spike is being skewed by aggravated assault and robbery, which if you notice started climbing in Oklahoma in the 60's and 70's. Good ole days to posters here. Aggravated assault more than doubled in the 60's alone. 36.8 in 1960 and 116.5 in 1969. Notice the same thing in the 70's and 80's. How much of that is tied to changing police tactics and changing circumstances (drugs)? The sale and use of illegal drugs became pretty popular in this time period, as did enactment enforcement of drug laws (War on Drugs ramped up dramatically in the early 70's). I would wager a good number of these assaults are between drug dealers/buyers/users and not on the average unsuspecting person going to the market for some bread.</p><p></p><p>Also being skewed by an increase in forcible rape. Ok, lets think about that. The Oklahoma forcible rape rate rose pretty quickly in the 70's and 80's, and then leveled off and remained relatively constant until now. How much of that was due to an increase in the amount of rapes reported to law enforcement due to changing societal attitudes towards sex crimes, especially in a traditionally southern and socially conservative state like Oklahoma? </p><p></p><p>Lastly, how many of these rapes, murder and assaults were random acts of violence from a stranger? A very small minority. Most people know their murder, rapist, or attacker.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]93143[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]93144[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1570018, member: 4319"] I was referring to national crime rates earlier. We can do Oklahoma too. Using the table you provided for Oklahoma crime data, if you notice the murder and manslaughter rates remain relatively constant from 1960-2009 spiking a few years in the 80's an 90's (as noted, the 1995 spike was the Murrah Building Bombing). In fact the Oklahoma murder rate was higher in 1960 than it was in entire decade preceding 2009. Your "violent crime rate" spike is being skewed by aggravated assault and robbery, which if you notice started climbing in Oklahoma in the 60's and 70's. Good ole days to posters here. Aggravated assault more than doubled in the 60's alone. 36.8 in 1960 and 116.5 in 1969. Notice the same thing in the 70's and 80's. How much of that is tied to changing police tactics and changing circumstances (drugs)? The sale and use of illegal drugs became pretty popular in this time period, as did enactment enforcement of drug laws (War on Drugs ramped up dramatically in the early 70's). I would wager a good number of these assaults are between drug dealers/buyers/users and not on the average unsuspecting person going to the market for some bread. Also being skewed by an increase in forcible rape. Ok, lets think about that. The Oklahoma forcible rape rate rose pretty quickly in the 70's and 80's, and then leveled off and remained relatively constant until now. How much of that was due to an increase in the amount of rapes reported to law enforcement due to changing societal attitudes towards sex crimes, especially in a traditionally southern and socially conservative state like Oklahoma? Lastly, how many of these rapes, murder and assaults were random acts of violence from a stranger? A very small minority. Most people know their murder, rapist, or attacker. [attach=full]93143[/attach] [attach=full]93144[/attach] [URL="http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm"]http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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