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<blockquote data-quote="TerryMiller" data-source="post: 3186495" data-attributes="member: 7900"><p>Well, if it means anything, I can give a wee bit of insight, mostly because in my time at the OSBI, on two or three occasions, the department I was in basically had to shut down our operations so we could help the SDA people process applications. The SDA department, at least at that time, had two shifts working with EVERYONE of them being solely dedicated to the SDA department. They had no other duties in any other department. Besides us helping out, there were other employees also helping the SDA, both in entry of data and checking of records.</p><p></p><p>For the record, the processing of the applications involved a lot more than just doing a criminal history search in the OSBI database. The OSBI had to get data and records from the police departments, sheriff's offices, and the feds. They were checking for domestic abuse crimes, along with so many others. I think they were even having to check outside sources on protective orders as well. So, in addition to the internal checks, the OSBI was having to wait on multiple sources outside of the agency to report back.</p><p></p><p>Now, that all said, it is a state agency, so I won't say there wasn't some BS going on, but it certainly isn't as much as many would think. Keep in mind that while the Sheriff's offices get a portion of the "fee," I doubt that they think that what they get compensates for the time spent in fingerprinting applicants and supplying data (or reporting no data) from the follow-up requests from the OSBI. Those people probably don't work fast either.</p><p></p><p>I'm not picking on GTG or Dave. I'm just pointing out that I doubt that anyone here has been as close to the process as I have, so my insight should mean a little bit. Because of their comments, everyone here can maybe better understand why the process is so long. Personally, I think 90 days is cutting it a bit close, and they might even be having to "approve" applicants when they haven't fully received all the data yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryMiller, post: 3186495, member: 7900"] Well, if it means anything, I can give a wee bit of insight, mostly because in my time at the OSBI, on two or three occasions, the department I was in basically had to shut down our operations so we could help the SDA people process applications. The SDA department, at least at that time, had two shifts working with EVERYONE of them being solely dedicated to the SDA department. They had no other duties in any other department. Besides us helping out, there were other employees also helping the SDA, both in entry of data and checking of records. For the record, the processing of the applications involved a lot more than just doing a criminal history search in the OSBI database. The OSBI had to get data and records from the police departments, sheriff's offices, and the feds. They were checking for domestic abuse crimes, along with so many others. I think they were even having to check outside sources on protective orders as well. So, in addition to the internal checks, the OSBI was having to wait on multiple sources outside of the agency to report back. Now, that all said, it is a state agency, so I won't say there wasn't some BS going on, but it certainly isn't as much as many would think. Keep in mind that while the Sheriff's offices get a portion of the "fee," I doubt that they think that what they get compensates for the time spent in fingerprinting applicants and supplying data (or reporting no data) from the follow-up requests from the OSBI. Those people probably don't work fast either. I'm not picking on GTG or Dave. I'm just pointing out that I doubt that anyone here has been as close to the process as I have, so my insight should mean a little bit. Because of their comments, everyone here can maybe better understand why the process is so long. Personally, I think 90 days is cutting it a bit close, and they might even be having to "approve" applicants when they haven't fully received all the data yet. [/QUOTE]
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