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Message: <blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 4022759" data-attributes="member: 277">i can see that.Though i'd submit that the founders recognized that their document was imperfect and allowed for a method to change it. I'm not arguing gun ownership is or should, just that the 'ideals the constitution embodies' also include that i can change. It's a difficult process by design and seemingly can only happen with a lot of buy in, but that doesn't mean a change would be universally received or respected.</blockquote>