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<blockquote data-quote="bambihunter" data-source="post: 3589332" data-attributes="member: 342"><p>A few things...</p><p>Newton's 3rd law of motion applies. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Most gas guns are heavier than the lighter inertia guns like Benelli's, thus, the "opposite" reaction feels different. I have a two old Super Black Eagle (1's) which are 3.5" mag. Shooting forward at a targets with the heaviest load isn't that much of an issue, but when you get those high fly-overs, where the recoil is more down on your collarbone or shoulder, than it is pushing back, those smart. Regardless, after a box or two of 3.5" mags, and I'll have the print of my shirt bruised into my skin for a few days.</p><p>Comparing weight to weight between gas, recoil, and inertia guns, you'll notice a small difference. The actual recoil energy is nearly identical. However, gas operation does siphon a tiny bit off for the action so there is slightly less jet of exhaust gasses coming out of the barrel. Long action recoil systems feel basically like gas guns, perhaps with a little more perceived vibration. The real difference is in the way the inertia actions cycle. The inertia systems have a short action stroke, which when measured, gives a shorter duration, but stronger recoil impulse. This is perceived as more recoil. In reality, it is kind of like the old .45 acp pistol vs. shooting a similar powered .40 for instance. The .45 with its lower velocity, gives more of a push where as higher velocity rounds give more of a snap.</p><p>A lot of the newer inertia guns like Benelli, have mitigated the "sharpness" with their ComforTech stock. Because I like my HK SBE's so much, I have stuck with the older styles without that feature. I now own most of the common Benelli models so I can compare head to head (M1, M3T, M4, Montefeltro, Ultralight, Super Sport, etc). Comparing my M1 or M3T (in inertia mode) to the gas operated M4, I can probably tell a difference with everything else the same. Changing ammo has more of an impact than anything though.</p><p>Truth be told, I don't think we'd still have seen a gas operated Benelli if not for the military requirement they participated in. The ARGO system used in the M1014 and M4 was adapted from the R1 rifle line. The ARGO system, and gas in general has less issues with hanging varying amount of gear and gadgets off the gun than the inertia system does which is calibrated for a small range of weight difference. I have two M4's, including the elusive and expensive NP3 treated H2O version (model 11711). Still, to me, Benelli IS inertia shotguns.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bambihunter, post: 3589332, member: 342"] A few things... Newton's 3rd law of motion applies. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Most gas guns are heavier than the lighter inertia guns like Benelli's, thus, the "opposite" reaction feels different. I have a two old Super Black Eagle (1's) which are 3.5" mag. Shooting forward at a targets with the heaviest load isn't that much of an issue, but when you get those high fly-overs, where the recoil is more down on your collarbone or shoulder, than it is pushing back, those smart. Regardless, after a box or two of 3.5" mags, and I'll have the print of my shirt bruised into my skin for a few days. Comparing weight to weight between gas, recoil, and inertia guns, you'll notice a small difference. The actual recoil energy is nearly identical. However, gas operation does siphon a tiny bit off for the action so there is slightly less jet of exhaust gasses coming out of the barrel. Long action recoil systems feel basically like gas guns, perhaps with a little more perceived vibration. The real difference is in the way the inertia actions cycle. The inertia systems have a short action stroke, which when measured, gives a shorter duration, but stronger recoil impulse. This is perceived as more recoil. In reality, it is kind of like the old .45 acp pistol vs. shooting a similar powered .40 for instance. The .45 with its lower velocity, gives more of a push where as higher velocity rounds give more of a snap. A lot of the newer inertia guns like Benelli, have mitigated the "sharpness" with their ComforTech stock. Because I like my HK SBE's so much, I have stuck with the older styles without that feature. I now own most of the common Benelli models so I can compare head to head (M1, M3T, M4, Montefeltro, Ultralight, Super Sport, etc). Comparing my M1 or M3T (in inertia mode) to the gas operated M4, I can probably tell a difference with everything else the same. Changing ammo has more of an impact than anything though. Truth be told, I don't think we'd still have seen a gas operated Benelli if not for the military requirement they participated in. The ARGO system used in the M1014 and M4 was adapted from the R1 rifle line. The ARGO system, and gas in general has less issues with hanging varying amount of gear and gadgets off the gun than the inertia system does which is calibrated for a small range of weight difference. I have two M4's, including the elusive and expensive NP3 treated H2O version (model 11711). Still, to me, Benelli IS inertia shotguns. [/QUOTE]
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