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<blockquote data-quote="okcBob" data-source="post: 3973143" data-attributes="member: 45783"><p>Because the LEO may not be legally entitled to the ID. Some people may not want to relinquish their civil rights.Yet many officers don’t know this & illegally detain or arrest people for not showing ID & therefore violate civil rights. Happens all the time. In this case he lost his temper & demanded the ID. Not fit for duty, doesn’t have the temperament for the job.</p><p></p><p>It all could have been avoided if this unfit cop did his job & left he scene before anything happened, but his ego got in the way. The citizen was a jerk & should have remained silent, BTW.</p><p></p><p>Also, people can be kind & respectful & politely decline to give the ID, as is their right. But often even this this enrages some LEO’s & bad stuff happens to innocent law abiding folks. Being “kind & respectful“ to everyone doesn’t guarantee you will “fine”, as evidenced in the second video below.</p><p></p><p> This made national news:</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/11/10/florida-deputies-mistake-legally-blind-man-cane-gun-arrest/10661060002/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>This is a favorite. Police don’t understand a simple ID law. Yet I bet people voluntarily give it up out of intimidation to these guys all the time. Innocent man cuffed & separated from his child. Peacefully exercising your civil rights doesnt make people stuck at 4 yrs old or uncooperative.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/news/2021/01/06/chief-carter-responds-san-angelo-mans-arrest-police-mishandled/6569482002/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okcBob, post: 3973143, member: 45783"] Because the LEO may not be legally entitled to the ID. Some people may not want to relinquish their civil rights.Yet many officers don’t know this & illegally detain or arrest people for not showing ID & therefore violate civil rights. Happens all the time. In this case he lost his temper & demanded the ID. Not fit for duty, doesn’t have the temperament for the job. It all could have been avoided if this unfit cop did his job & left he scene before anything happened, but his ego got in the way. The citizen was a jerk & should have remained silent, BTW. Also, people can be kind & respectful & politely decline to give the ID, as is their right. But often even this this enrages some LEO’s & bad stuff happens to innocent law abiding folks. Being “kind & respectful“ to everyone doesn’t guarantee you will “fine”, as evidenced in the second video below. This made national news: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/11/10/florida-deputies-mistake-legally-blind-man-cane-gun-arrest/10661060002/[/URL] This is a favorite. Police don’t understand a simple ID law. Yet I bet people voluntarily give it up out of intimidation to these guys all the time. Innocent man cuffed & separated from his child. Peacefully exercising your civil rights doesnt make people stuck at 4 yrs old or uncooperative. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/news/2021/01/06/chief-carter-responds-san-angelo-mans-arrest-police-mishandled/6569482002/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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