Judge rules in favor of forcing kids to wear locator chips!

[71buickfreak]

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-school-...ljc3x3aGl0ZWhvdXNlBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3

The world really has gone to hell. I don't what their reasons are, you can't force a person to wear a locator chip, period, anywhere other than prison.

 

[Joeh]

Bah...

Here is the actual ruling Hernandez Ruling.

The judge didn't rule in favor of forcing kids to do anything. If you read through the ruling, the judge specifically grants the right to wear a student ID badge, just like everyone else, WITHOUT an RFID locator chip in it. The father, and legal guardian, declined, citing "we MUST obey the word of God. By asking my daughter and our family to participate and 'FALL IN LINE LIKE THE REST OF THEM' is asking us to disobey our LORD and Savior."

The chips do not give specific locations, rather an approximate location (read: wing of the school) and serve mainly for identification purposes (just like you would check in at a school in Oklahoma). The badges do not work off school property.


Another part specifically from the ruling:
Again, Plaintiff has been wearing a student ID badge for several years. She doesn't object to wearing her old ID badge, yet she objects to the new ID badge issued by Jay H.S. despite the fact that the chip has been removed. Plaintiff's objection to wearing the Smart ID badge without a chip is clearly a secular choice, rather than a religious concern.


Feel free to read through the ruling yourself, but the misrepresentation of this case on the internet is startling. I think people would have a different outlook if they familiarized themselves rather than trusting yahoo or bbc or whatever to report the actual unbiased truth.

 

[ez bake]

Bah...

Here is the actual ruling Hernandez Ruling.

The judge didn't rule in favor of forcing kids to do anything. If you read through the ruling, the judge specifically grants the right to wear a student ID badge, just like everyone else, WITHOUT an RFID locator chip in it. The father, and legal guardian, declined, citing "we MUST obey the word of God. By asking my daughter and our family to participate and 'FALL IN LINE LIKE THE REST OF THEM' is asking us to disobey our LORD and Savior."

The chips do not give specific locations, rather an approximate location (read: wing of the school) and serve mainly for identification purposes (just like you would check in at a school in Oklahoma). The badges do not work off school property.


Another part specifically from the ruling:
Again, Plaintiff has been wearing a student ID badge for several years. She doesn't object to wearing her old ID badge, yet she objects to the new ID badge issued by Jay H.S. despite the fact that the chip has been removed. Plaintiff's objection to wearing the Smart ID badge without a chip is clearly a secular choice, rather than a religious concern.

This.

 

[71buickfreak]

You can justify it all you want, but in reality, it is training the youngsters to accept tracking chips.

 

[TwoForFlinching]

By asking my daughter and our family to participate and 'FALL IN LINE LIKE THE REST OF THEM' is asking us to disobey our LORD and Savior.

Just seems like a contradictory statement...

 

[Joeh]

You can justify it all you want, but in reality, it is training the youngsters to accept tracking chips.

If I were really tinfoil hatting - I'd be much more worried about your cell phone / laptop / new gadget as a tracking mechanism...than a ID badge. Any gadget now, with a GPS on it, even through wireless network is generally good to about 3m. That's quite a bit more locating power than a RFID signal being bounced back and forth.

Not justifying anything, just saying that if you want to be cautious about geolocation of people, stop carrying and relying on technology.

 

[bmwguy25]

If I were really tinfoil hatting - I'd be much more worried about your cell phone / laptop / new gadget as a tracking mechanism...than a ID badge. Any gadget now, with a GPS on it, even through wireless network is generally good to about 3m. That's quite a bit more locating power than a RFID signal being bounced back and forth.

Not justifying anything, just saying that if you want to be cautious about geolocation of people, stop carrying and relying on technology.

while they track people with phones they dont force us or make us wear them. Its funny that it says "it only works on school grounds" my arse

 

[Joeh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification

It really does only work there....Even advanced forms of RFID aren't good out to more than a few hundred meters.

Same technology that's in your pike pass. It just doesn't work that far.

They don't force you to wear or use a phone, but that doesn't mean that can't forcibly track you if you choose to use one. Nobody is MAKING the kids do anything there. They are opting into it. Again, if you read the ruling, the judge is providing people the opportunity to wear a tag that DOES NOT contain an RFID chip in it.

 

[bmwguy25]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification

It really does only work there....Even advanced forms of RFID aren't good out to more than a few hundred meters.

Same technology that's in your pike pass. It just doesn't work that far.

They don't force you to wear or use a phone, but that doesn't mean that can't forcibly track you if you choose to use one. Nobody is MAKING the kids do anything there. They are opting into it. Again, if you read the ruling, the judge is providing people the opportunity to wear a tag that DOES NOT contain an RFID chip in it.

They're making them wear student Id badges. Even when I was in hs we had id's . WE didn't have to "wear" them though.

 

[ripnbst]

They're making them wear student Id badges. Even when I was in hs we had id's . WE didn't have to "wear" them though.

Same. I had one but it was kept in my wallet and if you were doing something suspicious on school grounds or w/e they could ask to see your student ID. No RFID of any kind.

Some of you guys are probably carrying credit cards with RFID chips in them.