PMR is a blast! like NightHawk said its amazingly light. Im sure the RMR will be the same. The CCI FMJ feed the best from what I have found. Hornady did not do well at all.
The RMR carbine looks shockingly cool -- as long as it runs.
I agree that a .22 LR version would be the bomb for steel challenge and assorted "tactical .22" fun. The various .22 AR clones are great but you don't really need a full .223 sized carbine for the cartridge.
The RMR is more like what the Euros call "PDW" size. Especially with the retractable stock. Just a sweet concept.
Kel-Tec may be the most innovative US commercial small arms maker.
I agree that a .22 LR version would be the bomb for steel challenge and assorted "tactical .22" fun. The various .22 AR clones are great but you don't really need a full .223 sized carbine for the cartridge.
The RMR is more like what the Euros call "PDW" size. Especially with the retractable stock. Just a sweet concept.
Kel-Tec may be the most innovative US commercial small arms maker.
Nice.
Now make versions in 22lr, 9mm, 40, and .45acp.
Now make versions in 22lr, 9mm, 40, and .45acp.
They have my attention now.
PMR-30
RMR-30
KSG-12 (dual feed pump 12ga shotgun!!)
PMR-30
RMR-30
KSG-12 (dual feed pump 12ga shotgun!!)
I've actually gotta say, I like a lot of what KT has been doing. Just wish they would up their quality just a bit, and get up to speed on production.
The PF-9 I have is not the prettiest, nor most accurate, nor easiest to shoot of the pocket 9s, but it is sure is a great bang for the buck gun. And from what I can tell, it's as reliable as any of the others. Meaning shoot yours to make sure. It's competitive in size to the Kahr PM-9 and Rohrbaugh R9s, just slightly larger; however it is lighter than both. And you can buy 2 for the price of 1 PM-9, or 4:1 vs the Rohrbaugh.
The Sub-2000 uses common mags, is reasonably accurate, and folds to a stupid short length. Even with .40, it's got very very little recoil. And with the longer barrel, it's quieter than a pistol. Again, for the price, what's not to like?
The SU-16, offers lower price point than an AR, folds, uses AR mags and is pretty lightweight. Not a competitor to the AR, but for "truck gun" or "ranch rifle" use it makes sense. Also, with the flush fit 10rd mags and 2 spares in the stock, it's a lot handier than the AR platform.
Need I mention the RFB?
What I really want to see is a usable .22 lr conversion for the PF-9.
The PF-9 I have is not the prettiest, nor most accurate, nor easiest to shoot of the pocket 9s, but it is sure is a great bang for the buck gun. And from what I can tell, it's as reliable as any of the others. Meaning shoot yours to make sure. It's competitive in size to the Kahr PM-9 and Rohrbaugh R9s, just slightly larger; however it is lighter than both. And you can buy 2 for the price of 1 PM-9, or 4:1 vs the Rohrbaugh.
The Sub-2000 uses common mags, is reasonably accurate, and folds to a stupid short length. Even with .40, it's got very very little recoil. And with the longer barrel, it's quieter than a pistol. Again, for the price, what's not to like?
The SU-16, offers lower price point than an AR, folds, uses AR mags and is pretty lightweight. Not a competitor to the AR, but for "truck gun" or "ranch rifle" use it makes sense. Also, with the flush fit 10rd mags and 2 spares in the stock, it's a lot handier than the AR platform.
Need I mention the RFB?
What I really want to see is a usable .22 lr conversion for the PF-9.
Here ya go: PF922 Conversion Kit
I've received an email that says it's supposed to be entering production soon. Projected cost is around $200. That's a sizeable fraction of the cost of a PF-9, but it's not out of line with the cost of .22 conversion units for other guns.
I plan on getting the PMR/RMR combo for sure. Going to wait a bit on the KSG-12 and see how it functions. If the price is right though I can't imagine not picking one up. I want to get my hands on an RFB also.
Kel-Tec is making some really great firearms right now. My complaint is that too many have to be sent back and the waiting periods are far too slow. I love that they come out with new designs all the time. I just wish they could keep up with demand a little better.
Thanks!
