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<blockquote data-quote="Snattlerake" data-source="post: 3296337" data-attributes="member: 44288"><p>From your article</p><p></p><p>Some of you may remember the now discontinued Winchester’s <a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=dcad3b3ef0c75496&type=H&mid=7937&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=dcad3b3ef0c75496&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pntrs.com%2Ft%2F1-7937-43737-7937%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Ftractorsupply.affiliatetechnology.com%252Fredirect.php%253Fnt_id%253D5%2526url%253Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.tractorsupply.com%252Ftsc%252Fproduct%252Fcold-steel-black-talon-ii-plain-edge-knife-1193149%253Fcm_mmc%253DAffiliates-_-Pepperjam-_-product-_-feed%2526utm_source%253DAffiliates%2526utm_medium%253DPepperjam%2526utm_campaign%253Dproduct-feed&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3EBlack%20%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan%3ETalon%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank">Black Talon</a> rifle and pistol line. Introduced officially in 1991, this hollow point round is especially famous for its unique-looking projectile. While its black color and petal-like construction gave it a very distinctive look, the round’s performance was roughly on par with other hollow points. Winchester designed the <a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=af242d91d3fb161c&type=CD&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=af242d91d3fb161c&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fammunition%2Findex.htm&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3Eammunition%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank">ammunition</a> with stopping power in mind, but the gun maker soon found itself embroiled in controversy after the round was involved in a Long Island <a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=35151c3d34bae326&type=CD&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=35151c3d34bae326&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fsearch%2Findex.htm%3Fk%3Dshooting&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3Eshooting%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank">shooting</a> in 1993.</p><p></p><p>The cartridge provided additional ammunition (so to speak) for gun control advocates to rally against civilian gun ownership while other critics focused on the “Black Talon” name. In the end, Winchester decided to discontinue the pistol <a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=a9792f554732c3a2&type=CD&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=a9792f554732c3a2&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fsearch%2Findex.htm%3Fk%3Dcaliber&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3Ecaliber%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank">caliber</a> line in 1993, and the entire line completely in 2000. At no point was the round ever prohibited by United States law. In fact, some sources say that as many as 400 police departments at some point or another carried Black Talon ammunition.</p><p></p><p>From another article</p><p></p><p>The <strong>Black Talon</strong> handgun bullet is a jacketed hollow-point bullet with perforations designed to expose sharp edges upon expansion. The bullet included a Lubalox coating, a proprietary oxide process. ...<strong> This Lubalox coating was to protect the barrel rifling, and did not give the bullet armor-piercing capabilities.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snattlerake, post: 3296337, member: 44288"] From your article Some of you may remember the now discontinued Winchester’s [URL='http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=dcad3b3ef0c75496&type=H&mid=7937&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=dcad3b3ef0c75496&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pntrs.com%2Ft%2F1-7937-43737-7937%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Ftractorsupply.affiliatetechnology.com%252Fredirect.php%253Fnt_id%253D5%2526url%253Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.tractorsupply.com%252Ftsc%252Fproduct%252Fcold-steel-black-talon-ii-plain-edge-knife-1193149%253Fcm_mmc%253DAffiliates-_-Pepperjam-_-product-_-feed%2526utm_source%253DAffiliates%2526utm_medium%253DPepperjam%2526utm_campaign%253Dproduct-feed&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3EBlack%20%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan%3ETalon%3C%2Fspan%3E']Black Talon[/URL] rifle and pistol line. Introduced officially in 1991, this hollow point round is especially famous for its unique-looking projectile. While its black color and petal-like construction gave it a very distinctive look, the round’s performance was roughly on par with other hollow points. Winchester designed the [URL='http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=af242d91d3fb161c&type=CD&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=af242d91d3fb161c&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fammunition%2Findex.htm&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3Eammunition%3C%2Fspan%3E']ammunition[/URL] with stopping power in mind, but the gun maker soon found itself embroiled in controversy after the round was involved in a Long Island [URL='http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=35151c3d34bae326&type=CD&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=35151c3d34bae326&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fsearch%2Findex.htm%3Fk%3Dshooting&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3Eshooting%3C%2Fspan%3E']shooting[/URL] in 1993. The cartridge provided additional ammunition (so to speak) for gun control advocates to rally against civilian gun ownership while other critics focused on the “Black Talon” name. In the end, Winchester decided to discontinue the pistol [URL='http://i.viglink.com/?key=2694da2fe410438596291aa10efb5d18&insertId=a9792f554732c3a2&type=CD&exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A7&libId=k3chssjk0102irn4000DL2d4mt2fv&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outdoorhub.com%2Fstories%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2F5-most-controversial-handgun-rounds%2F&v=1&iid=a9792f554732c3a2&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fsearch%2Findex.htm%3Fk%3Dcaliber&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.okshooters.com%2Fthreads%2Flarger-than-45.284285%2F&title=The%205%20Most%20Controversial%20Handgun%20Rounds%20%7C%20OutdoorHub&txt=%3Cspan%3Ecaliber%3C%2Fspan%3E']caliber[/URL] line in 1993, and the entire line completely in 2000. At no point was the round ever prohibited by United States law. In fact, some sources say that as many as 400 police departments at some point or another carried Black Talon ammunition. From another article The [B]Black Talon[/B] handgun bullet is a jacketed hollow-point bullet with perforations designed to expose sharp edges upon expansion. The bullet included a Lubalox coating, a proprietary oxide process. ...[B] This Lubalox coating was to protect the barrel rifling, and did not give the bullet armor-piercing capabilities.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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