I'll go with you on the first part (though the Craftsman tools I bought in the late '90s were still better than average), but not so much on the HF comparison. I bought a cheap set of metric flare nut wrenches from HF so my dad could work on an old Toyota, and those things should've had "-ish" after every number.I’m gonna catch a lot of crap for this, but I’m just gonna say it. Craftsman tools are crap. The old stuff was pretty decent, but anything newer than mid 90s or so is crap. It’s just a small step above harbor freight.