People who have never shot LR love to talk out their a**. It's really not that difficult to shoot 1000 yards once you have a good load and a little trigger time. With modern ballistic software, range finders, and weather stations, you shouldn't have to use too many mulligans. With an accurate rifle, knowledgeable shooting coach, proper shooting fundamentals, a dad can have their son/daughter hitting steel at distance in no time at all. It's quite rewarding seeing the smiles on their faces once they do it. Good for you doctorjj. I too have had many an hour of fun shooting long range with my son. Hopefully in October, he'll join me on his first antelope hunt.