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<blockquote data-quote="Huckelberry75" data-source="post: 1900231" data-attributes="member: 7489"><p><a href="http://www.garandgear.com" target="_blank">http://www.garandgear.com</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000620055732/home.att.net/~Masterpo/M1load.htm" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/20000620055732/home.att.net/~Masterpo/M1load.htm</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.alabamaservicerifleteam.com/id17.html" target="_blank">http://www.alabamaservicerifleteam.com/id17.html</a></p><p></p><p>Check these sites out for info on M1's. Once you shoot one, you will be hooked. I can easily hit steel at 500 with surplus M2 ammo with my old warhorse. You can also load up 46.5gns of Varget with a 168gn Amax to mimic the Hornady Match Ammo. On the garandgear sight, also check out the post regarding shooting commercial ammo with their replacement gas plug. Schuster and McCann also make replacement plugs to moderate gas levels and protect the all mighty OP rod with heavier loads.</p><p></p><p>Here are specs from the Army Small Arms Ammunition Manual for M2 Ball which fired the 147gn FMJ. You can sub a 150 Nosler BT or Amax in with no problem, just work up for your gun.</p><p></p><p>CARTRIDGE, CALIBER .30, BALL, M2</p><p>Type Classification:</p><p>OBS - MSR 11756003.</p><p>Use:</p><p>Machine Guns, Caliber .30, M37, M1919A4 and</p><p>M1919A6; and Rifle, Caliber .30, M1. The cartridge is</p><p>intended for use against personnel or unarmored</p><p>targets.</p><p>Description:</p><p>BALL Cartridge. The cartridge is identified by a plain</p><p>bullet tip.</p><p>Tabulated Data:</p><p>DODAC.............................................. 1305-A212</p><p>UNO serial number ............................ 0012</p><p>UNO proper shipping</p><p>name ........................................... Cartridges for</p><p>weapons, inert</p><p>projectile</p><p>Weight ............................................... 416 gr</p><p>Length................................................ 3.34 in. (84.8</p><p>mm)</p><p>Tracer ................................................ NA</p><p>Primer................................................ Percussion</p><p>Fuze................................................... NA</p><p>Explosive:</p><p>Type ............................................ NA</p><p>Weight......................................... NA</p><p>Incendiary:</p><p>Type ............................................ NA</p><p>Weight ........................................ NA</p><p>Propellant:</p><p>Type ............................................ IMR 4895</p><p>Weight......................................... 50 gr</p><p>Performance:</p><p>Chamber pressure.............................. 50,000 psi</p><p>Velocity .............................................. 2740 fps, 78 ft</p><p>from muzzle</p><p>Shipping and Storage Data:</p><p>Quantity-distance class/</p><p>SCG ............................................ 1.4S</p><p>Storage code...................................... Class V</p><p>DOT shipping class ............................ C</p><p>DOT designation ................................ SMALL ARMS</p><p>AMMUNITION</p><p>Drawing number................................. 6137544</p><p>References:</p><p>SB 700-20</p><p>TM 9-1005-222-12P/1</p><p>TM 9-1300-206</p><p>5-9</p><p></p><p>Here is the M72 specs for a 173gn SMK for the match rifles. Again, work up for your personal rifles. Typically the M72 was loaded with 46-48gns of IMR-4895, depending upon the powder lot characteristics the military had at the time. I have heard of 50gns tearingoff rims and sticking cases, so I woul certainly work up from below the 50gn mark. I have heard and seen good reports with 47.5gns and a 175SMK.</p><p></p><p>CARTRIDGE, CALIBER .30, BALL, MATCH, M72</p><p>Type Classification:</p><p>STD - OTCM 37119.</p><p>Use:</p><p>Rifle, Caliber .30, M1; and Rifle, Caliber .30, National</p><p>Match. The cartridge is designed to be fired only in</p><p>weapons designated as competition rifles.</p><p>Description:</p><p>BALL Cartridge. The cartridge is identified by head</p><p>stampings on the base of the cartridge case with either</p><p>the initials NM (National Match) or the word MATCH.</p><p>The primer is uncrimped, the bullet has no crimped</p><p>cannelure, and the case is not crimped to the bullet.</p><p>Tabulated Data:</p><p>DODAC...................................... 1305-A247</p><p>UNO serial number .................... 0012</p><p>UNO proper shipping</p><p>name.......................................... Cartridges for</p><p>weapons, inert</p><p>projectile</p><p>Weight ....................................... 425 gr</p><p>Length........................................ 3.34 in. (84.8 mm)</p><p>Tracer ........................................ NA</p><p>Primer........................................ Percussion</p><p>Fuze................................................... NA</p><p>Explosive:</p><p>Type ............................................ NA</p><p>Weight......................................... NA</p><p>Incendiary:</p><p>Type................................................... NA</p><p>Weight ............................................... NA</p><p>Propellant:</p><p>Type................................................... IMR 4895</p><p>Weight ............................................... 50 gr</p><p>Performance:</p><p>Chamber pressure.............................. 50,000 psi</p><p>Velocity .............................................. 2640 fps, 78 ft</p><p>from muzzle</p><p>Shipping and Storage Data:</p><p>Quantity-distance class/</p><p>SCG ............................................ 1.4S</p><p>Storage code...................................... Class V</p><p>DOT shipping class ............................ C</p><p>DOT designation ................................ SMALL ARMS</p><p>AMMUNITION</p><p>Drawing number................................. 8595432</p><p>References:</p><p>SB 700-20</p><p>TM 9-1005-222-12P/1</p><p>TM 9-1300-206</p><p>5</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Huckelberry75, post: 1900231, member: 7489"] [url]http://www.garandgear.com[/url] [url]http://web.archive.org/web/20000620055732/home.att.net/~Masterpo/M1load.htm[/url] [url]http://www.alabamaservicerifleteam.com/id17.html[/url] Check these sites out for info on M1's. Once you shoot one, you will be hooked. I can easily hit steel at 500 with surplus M2 ammo with my old warhorse. You can also load up 46.5gns of Varget with a 168gn Amax to mimic the Hornady Match Ammo. On the garandgear sight, also check out the post regarding shooting commercial ammo with their replacement gas plug. Schuster and McCann also make replacement plugs to moderate gas levels and protect the all mighty OP rod with heavier loads. Here are specs from the Army Small Arms Ammunition Manual for M2 Ball which fired the 147gn FMJ. You can sub a 150 Nosler BT or Amax in with no problem, just work up for your gun. CARTRIDGE, CALIBER .30, BALL, M2 Type Classification: OBS - MSR 11756003. Use: Machine Guns, Caliber .30, M37, M1919A4 and M1919A6; and Rifle, Caliber .30, M1. The cartridge is intended for use against personnel or unarmored targets. Description: BALL Cartridge. The cartridge is identified by a plain bullet tip. Tabulated Data: DODAC.............................................. 1305-A212 UNO serial number ............................ 0012 UNO proper shipping name ........................................... Cartridges for weapons, inert projectile Weight ............................................... 416 gr Length................................................ 3.34 in. (84.8 mm) Tracer ................................................ NA Primer................................................ Percussion Fuze................................................... NA Explosive: Type ............................................ NA Weight......................................... NA Incendiary: Type ............................................ NA Weight ........................................ NA Propellant: Type ............................................ IMR 4895 Weight......................................... 50 gr Performance: Chamber pressure.............................. 50,000 psi Velocity .............................................. 2740 fps, 78 ft from muzzle Shipping and Storage Data: Quantity-distance class/ SCG ............................................ 1.4S Storage code...................................... Class V DOT shipping class ............................ C DOT designation ................................ SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION Drawing number................................. 6137544 References: SB 700-20 TM 9-1005-222-12P/1 TM 9-1300-206 5-9 Here is the M72 specs for a 173gn SMK for the match rifles. Again, work up for your personal rifles. Typically the M72 was loaded with 46-48gns of IMR-4895, depending upon the powder lot characteristics the military had at the time. I have heard of 50gns tearingoff rims and sticking cases, so I woul certainly work up from below the 50gn mark. I have heard and seen good reports with 47.5gns and a 175SMK. CARTRIDGE, CALIBER .30, BALL, MATCH, M72 Type Classification: STD - OTCM 37119. Use: Rifle, Caliber .30, M1; and Rifle, Caliber .30, National Match. The cartridge is designed to be fired only in weapons designated as competition rifles. Description: BALL Cartridge. The cartridge is identified by head stampings on the base of the cartridge case with either the initials NM (National Match) or the word MATCH. The primer is uncrimped, the bullet has no crimped cannelure, and the case is not crimped to the bullet. Tabulated Data: DODAC...................................... 1305-A247 UNO serial number .................... 0012 UNO proper shipping name.......................................... Cartridges for weapons, inert projectile Weight ....................................... 425 gr Length........................................ 3.34 in. (84.8 mm) Tracer ........................................ NA Primer........................................ Percussion Fuze................................................... NA Explosive: Type ............................................ NA Weight......................................... NA Incendiary: Type................................................... NA Weight ............................................... NA Propellant: Type................................................... IMR 4895 Weight ............................................... 50 gr Performance: Chamber pressure.............................. 50,000 psi Velocity .............................................. 2640 fps, 78 ft from muzzle Shipping and Storage Data: Quantity-distance class/ SCG ............................................ 1.4S Storage code...................................... Class V DOT shipping class ............................ C DOT designation ................................ SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION Drawing number................................. 8595432 References: SB 700-20 TM 9-1005-222-12P/1 TM 9-1300-206 5 [/QUOTE]
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