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<blockquote data-quote="KurtM" data-source="post: 962800" data-attributes="member: 6064"><p>Yep for the average guy the fatigue thing sure is a consideration, and yes "gameguys" don't tend to hold rifles up for a real long time....however <span style="color: Blue">( I am not necessarily disagreeing with Glocktogo here just a different view point)</span>. I have found in all the teaching I do around the world ( L.E. Military, Security) that if you keep someone with thier gun up all the time, kind of like was alluded to, for say around 4-5 minutes and then challenge them with a shoot scenario, thier reaction time to first shot is almost identical to someone who was in a relaxed low ready. It is still the mental lag of..."oh hey i got to shoot" that decides reaction time, aimed in or not. Now the funny part is that the guys going from low ready to bang almost always get better hits, as durring the decision making process they are already moving smoothly into the target where as the "pointed in guys" almost to the man convulse on the trigger and have worse hits. Also the guys using F.M.D.s almost to the man have much bigger dispersion of shots as both hands when grasping vertical grip will convulse both hands at the same time causeing side to side movement where as the more open type grip like in the picture will cause a more linear movement of the rifle. </p><p></p><p> Remember when it was in vogue to train "hold the mag well"?? Well everone finally found out that that was a TERRIBLE thing to do, so we are slowly getting away from it and the F.M.D, is still in the same venue...so if you must run one....make sure it is WAY OUT THERE....Just like Glocktogo Said!</p><p></p><p>And as an aside we are now definitly talking theory...how ever it is backed up with experience, a large pool of test subjects from around the globe, and your friend and mine...a timer!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KurtM, post: 962800, member: 6064"] Yep for the average guy the fatigue thing sure is a consideration, and yes "gameguys" don't tend to hold rifles up for a real long time....however [COLOR="Blue"]( I am not necessarily disagreeing with Glocktogo here just a different view point)[/COLOR]. I have found in all the teaching I do around the world ( L.E. Military, Security) that if you keep someone with thier gun up all the time, kind of like was alluded to, for say around 4-5 minutes and then challenge them with a shoot scenario, thier reaction time to first shot is almost identical to someone who was in a relaxed low ready. It is still the mental lag of..."oh hey i got to shoot" that decides reaction time, aimed in or not. Now the funny part is that the guys going from low ready to bang almost always get better hits, as durring the decision making process they are already moving smoothly into the target where as the "pointed in guys" almost to the man convulse on the trigger and have worse hits. Also the guys using F.M.D.s almost to the man have much bigger dispersion of shots as both hands when grasping vertical grip will convulse both hands at the same time causeing side to side movement where as the more open type grip like in the picture will cause a more linear movement of the rifle. Remember when it was in vogue to train "hold the mag well"?? Well everone finally found out that that was a TERRIBLE thing to do, so we are slowly getting away from it and the F.M.D, is still in the same venue...so if you must run one....make sure it is WAY OUT THERE....Just like Glocktogo Said! And as an aside we are now definitly talking theory...how ever it is backed up with experience, a large pool of test subjects from around the globe, and your friend and mine...a timer! [/QUOTE]
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