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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 3475483" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>For pistol go I with the LEE 4 die set.</p><p>You get the much desired LEE carbide factory crimp die.</p><p>Watch out for gun show stuff some of that stuff is way worn out bad.</p><p>Dies that are not carbide for pistol and very scratched up.</p><p></p><p>Some die sets have the bullet seat and crimp die in one die.</p><p>I do not like those at all.</p><p>I do not crimp my loads and for loads in other guns that need a crimp I like the LEE crimp dies.</p><p></p><p>Now on Rifle dies I like the LEE RGB die sets. Or a 3 Die set</p><p>The 3 Die rifle set will have the shell holder and load data and a 2 die set will have the Full length die and the bullet seating die.</p><p></p><p>For my .223 and .308 those 2 dies are all I use.</p><p></p><p>Did the Wife get you a Single stage Cast Iron press with primer seating ability???</p><p>Some LEE Presses do not have the built in primer seating and you will need a primer seating die.</p><p></p><p>If you hunt with the .223 or just plink I will say all My .223 and 5.56 rifles LOVE the Hornady 55 gr V-Max.</p><p>1:7 to 1:9 twist does not matter those things shoot excellent and it is like waving a magic death wand at a deer or hog </p><p>or any critter you stick one of those into.</p><p></p><p>The lead tipped spitzer 55 gr Hornady is not a good killing bullet.</p><p>Well not as good as the V-Max.</p><p>The V-Max is like tossing a hand grenade into an animal.</p><p>The lead tipped bullet will mushroom but NO great explosion or shock factor with it.</p><p></p><p>I use a Lyman VLD chamfer on the rifle case mouths .</p><p>And a LEE case length gauge and shell holder and lock stud and cutter to trim the rifle cases.</p><p></p><p>You can make a homemade pin tumbler on the very cheap and make pins to clean with on the cheap also if you are crafty.</p><p></p><p>I no longer clean cases in a vibratory cleaner.</p><p>I will wipe off the case with a cloth and brush the necks with a bore brush before I will wait for the vibratory</p><p>to attempt to clean a case.</p><p></p><p>OK so the vibratory will clean cases but I can't deal with the dust.</p><p>Yes you can add stuff to eliminate some of the dust and I have cleaned many thousands of cases in one but not in todays time.</p><p></p><p>If you do use a vibratory make sure all dust is removed from the cases inside and out.</p><p>Bust will scratch dies and cases and if scratches bother you then just know that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 3475483, member: 15054"] For pistol go I with the LEE 4 die set. You get the much desired LEE carbide factory crimp die. Watch out for gun show stuff some of that stuff is way worn out bad. Dies that are not carbide for pistol and very scratched up. Some die sets have the bullet seat and crimp die in one die. I do not like those at all. I do not crimp my loads and for loads in other guns that need a crimp I like the LEE crimp dies. Now on Rifle dies I like the LEE RGB die sets. Or a 3 Die set The 3 Die rifle set will have the shell holder and load data and a 2 die set will have the Full length die and the bullet seating die. For my .223 and .308 those 2 dies are all I use. Did the Wife get you a Single stage Cast Iron press with primer seating ability??? Some LEE Presses do not have the built in primer seating and you will need a primer seating die. If you hunt with the .223 or just plink I will say all My .223 and 5.56 rifles LOVE the Hornady 55 gr V-Max. 1:7 to 1:9 twist does not matter those things shoot excellent and it is like waving a magic death wand at a deer or hog or any critter you stick one of those into. The lead tipped spitzer 55 gr Hornady is not a good killing bullet. Well not as good as the V-Max. The V-Max is like tossing a hand grenade into an animal. The lead tipped bullet will mushroom but NO great explosion or shock factor with it. I use a Lyman VLD chamfer on the rifle case mouths . And a LEE case length gauge and shell holder and lock stud and cutter to trim the rifle cases. You can make a homemade pin tumbler on the very cheap and make pins to clean with on the cheap also if you are crafty. I no longer clean cases in a vibratory cleaner. I will wipe off the case with a cloth and brush the necks with a bore brush before I will wait for the vibratory to attempt to clean a case. OK so the vibratory will clean cases but I can't deal with the dust. Yes you can add stuff to eliminate some of the dust and I have cleaned many thousands of cases in one but not in todays time. If you do use a vibratory make sure all dust is removed from the cases inside and out. Bust will scratch dies and cases and if scratches bother you then just know that. [/QUOTE]
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