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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 3324841" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>Yep I know all about that reduction of anti wear additives all too well.</p><p>It happened in 2007.</p><p>Since the time I had been driving I was using Havoline 10-30 or 10-40 I am 51 now and that was not too long ago But I did see the Zinc levels in the oil I was using then it was 1450 PPM and Phosphorus was up there also.</p><p>I began racing about 19 years old and was looking for an even slicker better oil and started using Mobil 1 synthetic.. It gave me better MPG in everything.</p><p>I then began testing different oils for MPG differences in about 1997 and found a huge difference in the MPG then did another test in 2001 with my corolla and with conventional it would get 27 MPG and some synthetic oils would give me 33.5 MPG and some synthetics only mustered 29 MPG.</p><p></p><p>Fast forward to 2007 or 2008 It had been about 7 years since I had installed cam into anything.</p><p>Buddy wanted one and I usually just used shelf oil to break in a cam as it was going to be removed in 30 minutes and another batch of shelf oil and fresh filter and another 30-40 minutes and i change that out.</p><p></p><p>Well it did not make it through the second oil change had a lifter eat the cam and the lifter went south.</p><p>Others were on their way out.</p><p>This was a fresh rebuild not just a cam.</p><p>It all came apart flushed all the debris out of everything.. oil galley plugs came out also and brushed and high pressure sprayed it all out.</p><p>Another cam and lifters went in.</p><p></p><p>Another Fail this one did not make it 15 minutes during break in and started ticking.</p><p></p><p>WTF!!! I have done this same procedure dozens of times and never lost a cam or lifters..</p><p>It all came apart fresh bearings again all flushed out and now I am doing research on cam and lifter failures.</p><p>I used GM EOS and forget what oil on the 3rd attempt and no failures.</p><p>Thanks EPA... FOR NOTHING.</p><p>I now use Driven which was Joe Gibbs oil for Break-in. </p><p></p><p>And use Driven oils or Valvoline VR1 in my stuff.</p><p></p><p>The 1995 corolla using mobil 1 synthetic MPG went from 33.5 to 29-30 with the new blend low ZDDP.</p><p>I used it in my riding mower also and changed it one day and fired it up and heard a horrible squeal.</p><p></p><p>It was a bearing squeal ..Are you kidding me you can't make oil even remotely good enough for a measly old riding mower.</p><p>Talk about Zero protection from A product you would think was good.</p><p>It got Rotella T6.</p><p></p><p>Buddy lost a cam in his 66 vette Mobil 1 synthetic.</p><p>He has a Honda that I swear was knocking from a rod or piston slap.. less than 100,000 miles.</p><p>Using Mobil synthetic..I had him send a sample to blackstone labs and it came back normal for his mileage.</p><p>I told him change the oil to T6 he did and the knocking immediately quit and MPG came up 4 MPG.</p><p>My corolla got T6 and I was rewarded with 35 MPG it bested the good Mobil oil.</p><p></p><p>He changed the oil in his 5.3 LS to T6 and MPG came up 1.5.</p><p>T6 has changed since then.</p><p></p><p>Gotta stay on top of this oil stuff for sure,, Every year it changes.</p><p></p><p>I say use European Mobil 1 because it does still have some good stuff in it..a bit lower than I like to see but better than our made for USA crud.</p><p></p><p>Driven has some really good LS oil with plenty of the good antiwear additives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 3324841, member: 15054"] Yep I know all about that reduction of anti wear additives all too well. It happened in 2007. Since the time I had been driving I was using Havoline 10-30 or 10-40 I am 51 now and that was not too long ago But I did see the Zinc levels in the oil I was using then it was 1450 PPM and Phosphorus was up there also. I began racing about 19 years old and was looking for an even slicker better oil and started using Mobil 1 synthetic.. It gave me better MPG in everything. I then began testing different oils for MPG differences in about 1997 and found a huge difference in the MPG then did another test in 2001 with my corolla and with conventional it would get 27 MPG and some synthetic oils would give me 33.5 MPG and some synthetics only mustered 29 MPG. Fast forward to 2007 or 2008 It had been about 7 years since I had installed cam into anything. Buddy wanted one and I usually just used shelf oil to break in a cam as it was going to be removed in 30 minutes and another batch of shelf oil and fresh filter and another 30-40 minutes and i change that out. Well it did not make it through the second oil change had a lifter eat the cam and the lifter went south. Others were on their way out. This was a fresh rebuild not just a cam. It all came apart flushed all the debris out of everything.. oil galley plugs came out also and brushed and high pressure sprayed it all out. Another cam and lifters went in. Another Fail this one did not make it 15 minutes during break in and started ticking. WTF!!! I have done this same procedure dozens of times and never lost a cam or lifters.. It all came apart fresh bearings again all flushed out and now I am doing research on cam and lifter failures. I used GM EOS and forget what oil on the 3rd attempt and no failures. Thanks EPA... FOR NOTHING. I now use Driven which was Joe Gibbs oil for Break-in. And use Driven oils or Valvoline VR1 in my stuff. The 1995 corolla using mobil 1 synthetic MPG went from 33.5 to 29-30 with the new blend low ZDDP. I used it in my riding mower also and changed it one day and fired it up and heard a horrible squeal. It was a bearing squeal ..Are you kidding me you can't make oil even remotely good enough for a measly old riding mower. Talk about Zero protection from A product you would think was good. It got Rotella T6. Buddy lost a cam in his 66 vette Mobil 1 synthetic. He has a Honda that I swear was knocking from a rod or piston slap.. less than 100,000 miles. Using Mobil synthetic..I had him send a sample to blackstone labs and it came back normal for his mileage. I told him change the oil to T6 he did and the knocking immediately quit and MPG came up 4 MPG. My corolla got T6 and I was rewarded with 35 MPG it bested the good Mobil oil. He changed the oil in his 5.3 LS to T6 and MPG came up 1.5. T6 has changed since then. Gotta stay on top of this oil stuff for sure,, Every year it changes. I say use European Mobil 1 because it does still have some good stuff in it..a bit lower than I like to see but better than our made for USA crud. Driven has some really good LS oil with plenty of the good antiwear additives. [/QUOTE]
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