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<blockquote data-quote="vvvvvvv" data-source="post: 1487887" data-attributes="member: 5151"><p>Good luck.</p><p></p><p>I'd question the 2A support of everyone who supported that bill as a so-called "open carry" bill, whether by vote or by lobbying.</p><p></p><p>ETA: Rep. Derby does have a notice of motion to reconsider on file. He must make that motion today since this is the deadline for bill consideration in chamber of origin. Normally, he would have 3 days to make the motion or let it die.</p><p></p><p>By the way, here's the e-mail I sent to my rep.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Mr. Russ,</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">I'm not sure which way you voted because it hasn't been published yet, but I would like for you to support Rep. Derby's motion to reconsider the vote. A "yes" vote on HB1647 should be regarded as an anti- Second Amendment vote whether it be with or without the Virgin amendment.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">As long as the addition of "section 6" in Section 1 of the bill remains intact (with or without the Virgin amendment), this bill does nothing to help open carry in Oklahoma. In fact, it hurts open carry efforts. With the language there, open carry of a firearm in Oklahoma would still remain a criminal offense. The only thing offered by this bill in terms of open carry is a defense in the event of an arrest or prosecution if the defendant can articulate a "reasonable fear of bodily harm". However, as you can imagine a "reasonable fear" by one person may not be a "reasonable fear" to another.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Rep. Reynolds said on the floor that gun owners support this as an open carry bill. I personally have not met a single gun owner who does once they are privy to what the so-called open carry provision actually says. It doesn't matter if it's the group who wants licensed open carry, Constitutional open carry, or no open carry at all, they all seem to recognize that the language in this bill is bad.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Support of HB1647 is support of a bill that is bad for gun owners and open carry in Oklahoma. I would personally consider anyone (Representative or otherwise) who supports this bill to be against open carry in Oklahoma, especially if they are actually aware of the language in the bill.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Brian Altenhofel</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><REDACTED> (Washita County)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Clinton, OK 73601</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><REDACTED></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p>I'm not expecting a response.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vvvvvvv, post: 1487887, member: 5151"] Good luck. I'd question the 2A support of everyone who supported that bill as a so-called "open carry" bill, whether by vote or by lobbying. ETA: Rep. Derby does have a notice of motion to reconsider on file. He must make that motion today since this is the deadline for bill consideration in chamber of origin. Normally, he would have 3 days to make the motion or let it die. By the way, here's the e-mail I sent to my rep. [indent] Mr. Russ, I'm not sure which way you voted because it hasn't been published yet, but I would like for you to support Rep. Derby's motion to reconsider the vote. A "yes" vote on HB1647 should be regarded as an anti- Second Amendment vote whether it be with or without the Virgin amendment. As long as the addition of "section 6" in Section 1 of the bill remains intact (with or without the Virgin amendment), this bill does nothing to help open carry in Oklahoma. In fact, it hurts open carry efforts. With the language there, open carry of a firearm in Oklahoma would still remain a criminal offense. The only thing offered by this bill in terms of open carry is a defense in the event of an arrest or prosecution if the defendant can articulate a "reasonable fear of bodily harm". However, as you can imagine a "reasonable fear" by one person may not be a "reasonable fear" to another. Rep. Reynolds said on the floor that gun owners support this as an open carry bill. I personally have not met a single gun owner who does once they are privy to what the so-called open carry provision actually says. It doesn't matter if it's the group who wants licensed open carry, Constitutional open carry, or no open carry at all, they all seem to recognize that the language in this bill is bad. Support of HB1647 is support of a bill that is bad for gun owners and open carry in Oklahoma. I would personally consider anyone (Representative or otherwise) who supports this bill to be against open carry in Oklahoma, especially if they are actually aware of the language in the bill. Brian Altenhofel <REDACTED> (Washita County) Clinton, OK 73601 <REDACTED> [/indent] I'm not expecting a response. [/QUOTE]
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